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Pittie party: Pit bull owners parade dogs through Naples

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Pom Pom the pit bull’s halo was crooked after playing for an hour, but she behaved like an angel at a “Pittie Party” organized for dogs Saturday.

More than 50 pit bulls and Staffordshires – a breed similar in appearance – gathered in Cambier Park along with their owners for the Humane Society Naples’ first event for what many attendees called the “misunderstood” dogs.

“You always have events for foofy dogs,” said 4-year-old Beaucifus’ owner, Melissa Huffman, who sported a “Hey Vick, who’s in the dog house now?” T-shirt that she had made. “People are scared of anything with pit bulls.”

Apart from a few barks during the sniff-and-greet stage as more pets arrived, the dogs and their companions were a quiet group – an impression the humans hope gets out to the community.

“I came just to try to bring their name back to good status in the media,” said Robert Jennings, who has three pits at home.

“They’re great with kids,” he explained, standing beside his 6-year-old son, Dante, along with purebred pit bulls Kevlar and Gracie.

Although the dogs play well with Dante, they are “too laid back” to be protective, Jennings said. “You could probably come rob my house and they’d show you where everything is.”

Rather than one breed, the term pit bull refers to several dog breeds that can physically resemble each other, like the American Pit Bull Terrier, the American Staffordshire Terrier and the Bull Terrier.

Kim Wark, a Staffordshire breeder from Michigan who attended Saturday’s event, said she has given a speech so often to dispel the myths about the dog, she recites it automatically.

“They’re very misunderstood. People look at them and think they’re a pit bull.”

The Staffordshire, she said, is “very sweet, very docile.”

“They are loveable and expectant of love. They want to be on your lap, to follow you around,” she said.

Although Wark has no problem letting her 2-year-old son, Sam, play with the family’s 40-pound to 50-pound dogs, she is wary with him around smaller breeds.

“They’re so nippy, they can quickly snap at a small child,” she said.

Dog obedience trainer Germaine Eurich said any breed can be taught to be aggressive; pit bulls earned a bad reputation because their muscular, often stocky build made them candidates to be bred as fight dogs – establishing a public image of a violent animal.

Responsible pet ownership takes precedence over the characteristics attributed to a breed in determining a dog’s behavior.

“Temperament has to be shaped,” Eurich said.

Pit bulls are often the target of breed-specific legislation restricting ownership. Miami-Dade County has banned pit bulls since 1989.

According to a 27-year study in the New York City area, German shepherds, chow chows and poodles top the list of dogs that bite humans most often. Other studies put pit bulls at the top of the list in attacks and fatalities since the late 1990s. The lack of a central agency tracking the millions of dog bites in the U.S. every year makes analysis difficult.

“Do (pit bulls) have to be watched? Of course. Any dog needs to be watched,” Eurich said.

“From what I know about this breed, I wouldn’t believe this would be possible,” said Jim Cooper, a visitor from Philadelphia who watched the scores of pit bulls and Staffordshires parade from Cambier Park down several blocks of Fifth Avenue South in Naples on Saturday. “You couldn’t get 100 of anything to be this peaceful.”

Contact Victoria Macchi at vmmacchi@gmail.com

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Put them to sleep and shoot their owners.

#1 Posted by greathornedlizard on December 15, 2007 at 5:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LIZARD
YOU ARE AN IDIOT

#2 Posted by pattiesk9s on December 15, 2007 at 6:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am not a pit bull fan, however, I feel their bad rap is from the breed getting into the wrong hands (meaning owner). I am not singling out any race as its everyone. Everyone is to blame for the bad rap this breed is getting from OVER breeding them, breeding to fight, etc. Plus the ridiculous look of that thick chain around their necks, foolish ear cuts, etc....The human race is the ones to blame for the innocent dogs wellfare. Most get euthanized.

#3 Posted by Nplschick on December 15, 2007 at 6:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

While I am not huge fan of pit bulls I agree that their bad rep is because so many of them have been raised wrong and many more trained to fight.

I had a pit bull mix dog at one time who turned out to be one of the nicest dogs that I ever had. Again I think that he was raised in a family home with the proper training was the reason he was so nice.

I agree with Npleschick that us humans are the biggest cause of troubles with the pit bull breed.

#4 Posted by swfl_ff on December 15, 2007 at 7:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

For any human being to lose his freedom over dog fighting dog is ridiculous. Fine the man and make him do community service. Wake up people dogs are not human beings and stop treating them like they are.

#5 Posted by upagain on December 15, 2007 at 9:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT - you are irresponsible if you own these breeds, period. You hear and read about them "snapping" all the time in the news. Why do you owners not think it will happen to you? It's not how you raise them - they're ticking time bombs. Read this article, it's a real eye opener:

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/stati...

"According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question"

#6 Posted by wonderwoman on December 15, 2007 at 10:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wonderwoman:

YOUR OWN LINK said:

"Any dog, treated harshly or trained to attack, may bite a person. Any dog can be turned into a dangerous dog. The owner or handler most often is responsible for making a dog into something dangerous.

An irresponsible owner or dog handler might create a situation that places another person in danger by a dog, without the dog itself being dangerous.

Any individual dog may be a good, loving pet, even though its breed is considered to be potentially dangerous. A responsible owner can win the love and respect of a dog, no matter its breed. ONE CANNOT LOOK AT AN INDIVIDUAL DOG, RECOGNIZE ITS BREES, AND THEN STATE WHETHER OR NOT IT IS GOING TO ATTACK."

Did you also read the part in your own link about the POMERANIAN that killed a child?

Your post is bloody ridiculous and you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Thanks for the link, though!

#7 Posted by ColinF on December 15, 2007 at 11:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Pit bulls are the pits, mostly owned by people with receding chins and one-inch foreheads. If one strays on my property I have the ultimate solution. End of story.

#8 Posted by almasonlybar on December 15, 2007 at 11:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good for the Humane Society!

#9 Posted by kittycat on December 15, 2007 at 11:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ColinF,
Sorry, I agree with wonderwoman. I have a good friend in the estates whose daughter was attacked by a pit bull at the age of five in her own yard. Fortunately, her father saw it happening and was able to prevent her from being slaughtered with quick, decisive action. The little girl still has her scars, but the dog is deceased.

#10 Posted by almasonlybar on December 15, 2007 at 11:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

People in the Estates are notorious for letting their dogs run loose and wild. People dump their unwanted pets out their and they grow up wild, unsocialized and out-of-control.

You had one experience with a pit bull. I have had many, and they are all positive.

Among the people that I know with pit bulls:

A retired couple in their 70s, a couple of young women, a few families, and some young professional couples. No dope dealers or gangstas in the bunch.

No one has receding chins and one-inch foreheads; that must be the quality of folk that live in your neck of the woods.

You don't get it, do you? Fear sells. That's why we get indundated with hurricane information at the slightest rainshower.

Try not to believe everything the media feeds you.

#11 Posted by ColinF on December 16, 2007 at 12:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry, this is one of God's ugliest breeds. Regardless of disposition, to have a head that big, and ears so small, it really is an ugly dog.

I have yet to see a Disney movie about a pit bull. The breed just doesn't have that camera bravado.

#12 Posted by volochine on December 16, 2007 at 1:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

There is only one violent breed. HUMANS. I have seen Chihuahuas more agressive than pitbulls. People who are afraid of pitbulls and think they sould be killed are just ignorants. They are afraid of something they dont even know. I don't own one. But I seen many pitbulls sleep in the room with kids. Have you seen Cesar Milan's show?? He has a pitbull that is the sweetest dog alive. Pitbull are stronger? Yes. Are they more aggressive?? BS.

#13 Posted by ricky369 on December 16, 2007 at 2:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

About dogs running loose in the Estates: Yes there are dogs running loose there. Many of them let loose by people who doesnt live there.

#14 Posted by ricky369 on December 16, 2007 at 2:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Someone needs to tell my 6 month old kitten that she shouldn't sleep in the cage with my 7 year old and 3 year old pit bulls. I would tell her but, she's been sleeping with them since she was old enough to walk and I'm not sure how to break the news that they are vicious killers. I don't think she'd believe me.

#15 Posted by myrealname on December 16, 2007 at 6:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have owned many dogs in my life 2 of them have been pit bulls and doth of them turned aggressive. I did not teach them to be aggressive they were both loved and brought up with children and other dogs in our home. As puppies they were fun and playful but as adults they turned not on us but the other dogs in our home. I was over some friends home who's pit was brought up with professional people i new this dog over 4 years and one day visiting these people the dog attacked me in there living room. One morning on my way to work there was this man and his son walking there dog and i seen this pit break his leash ran in front of my truck and grabbed the other dog i jumped out of my truck to help these people this dog would not let go of the other dog i fought this dog like i was fighting a monster finally the owner came running and tried to get the dog of the other dog and still he would not let go so no i do not think that this is a very friendly dog breed and if you own one and you have kids i would not trust the dog to be alone with them.

#16 Posted by bigtwinvhf on December 16, 2007 at 7:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Techie, It won't be one of mine. I guarantee that.

So, is that all a dog would have to do to get shot, simply come on to your property? I assume you can tell a dogs' lineage, temperament, and intentions while cowering in your doorway 50 yards away? I'm sure you haven't got the guts to even check to see if some friendly dog has just wandered onto your precious piece of land by accident. No, you'll just blast away.

Thank goodness you live far enough away from other houses so as not to worry about an errant shot or two striking a child.

That would be a horrible tragedy.

You do live far enough way from other houses right?

Hopefully I'm right that you live far enough out in the woods so that I can rest assured that you aren't my neighbor, or anybody elses' for that matter. Because, if you don't, then somebody has an irresponsible gun owner living near them.

One who is extremely dangerous and waiting to go off like a ticking time bomb.

#17 Posted by myrealname on December 16, 2007 at 8:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

bigtwinvhf, They are big strong dogs and in a pack they will dominate once they are able. This will lead to fights. Were these fights, that you witnessed, over food or attention from you or someone else in your family? Maybe over a bone or a bed?

I don't know what "professional people" means in relationship to raising the dog that attacked you so, I can't comment on that? Could you maybe tell a little more about that?

Your last expreience sounds like somebody had a pit bull tied up in their yard and he broke free. Is that correct?

If so, I'd say that dog's behavior was directly related to an irresponsible and abusive owner. Leaving a dog tied in the yard is extremely cruel and damaging to a dogs mind, in a variety of ways. Heat, angst,, possible abusive from an occasional kid, sores, fleas, maybe a lack of water or food, could all turn just about any dog mad.

#18 Posted by myrealname on December 16, 2007 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I know it's not the same breed, but an unfortunate young woman here in the UK has already lost one arm and might lose another in a Rottweiler attack. When are human beings going to realise, that all dogs originated from wolves, and can be unpredictable.

#19 Posted by Maddie4 on December 16, 2007 at 8:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

JYD, you made me scare the cat when I laughed out loud!

#20 Posted by myrealname on December 16, 2007 at 8:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Fine, idiots...go BUY a dog that has a killer jaw and is a proven natural fighter...it's all about the fun! Next, go play with matches while filling your car with gas! That would be fun and dangerous, too.

#21 Posted by babbas on December 16, 2007 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Techie, you are an idiot.

What's your defence going to be when you miss the shot and some neighbor next door get's killed or injured.

"Oh my magic bullets are supposed to stop on property"

"I only use Dog Shot, can't be my fault"

"The beer made me miss"

"The Meth made me miss"

Techie, YOU are more of a threat to society than any dog could ever be.

#22 Posted by Ironage on December 16, 2007 at 9:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ironage, myrealname and others: AWESOME posts. You hit the nail right on the head (um, which is more than Techie would do).

Babbas: you are one of those people who heard some totally bizarre rumor that pits have "killer, locking jaws" and actually believed it. A pit is a dog. NO dogs have locking jaws. Therefore, NO pits have locking jaws. If they had different jaws in any way, shape, or form, their species would have to be reclassified.

Good to see some people here who don't buy what the media sells them, hook, line and sinker. Who actually have experience with these dogs and know the truth.

MRN was correct about chaining dogs, too; if you leave your dog outside, you are doing a disservice to our dog and to your neighbors.

#23 Posted by ColinF on December 16, 2007 at 10:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

COLINF...you really show your defensiveness (and ignorance) when you put words in the mouths of others. I mentioned that pits had killer jaws. I said nothing about this locking thing you are defensive about. Also, the news is full of daily stories of pitbill attacks, none of which are "rumors". Ignorance is bliss, but can be deadly, too.

#24 Posted by babbas on December 16, 2007 at 11:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

babbas, the news is full of daily stories about corrupt politicians and crooked cops. Does that mean all politicians and cops are corrupt? I see stories about people killing other people every day, am I to assume that all people will kill me? people abduct children all the time. So, I guess you and I are child abductors, right? Planes crash. Boats sink. Do all planes crash and all boats sink?

Pit bulls have attacked people. Does that mean all pit bulls attack people?

You say ignorance is bliss but, the ignorance that you display sounds completely terrifying to me.

#25 Posted by myrealname on December 16, 2007 at 11:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You people that believe all the crap you read about this breed- this is for you. How does the song go? Oh yeah, I've got some oceanfront property in Arizona. I'll sell it to you for 1/2 off. You can use the other half to educate yourself. I hear they hold classes right on the ocean!

#26 Posted by crazydogs on December 16, 2007 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow, looks like the reasonable folks are in the majority here; glad to see it.

Babbas, dude, you're the one who brought up "killer jaws". I was refuting your statement. If you can't prove what you said, then don't say it.

#27 Posted by ColinF on December 16, 2007 at 12:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Over the 32-year period from 1965-2001, Pit Bulls have been blamed for/accused of an average of 2.48 human fatalities per year.

Every year, more than 2,000 children in the U.S. are killed by their parents or guardians, either through abuse or neglect.

So, a child is more than 800 times more likely to be killed by their caretaker than by a Pit Bull.

Approximately 150 people are killed every year by falling coconuts. Therefore, you are more than 60 TIMES MORE LIKELY to be killed by a PALM TREE than a Pit Bull.

www.thetruthaboutpitbulls.com

#28 Posted by beachykeen on December 16, 2007 at 1:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Enjoy your killing machines! Better stay outta my yard!

#29 Posted by babbas on December 16, 2007 at 1:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What would you be saying if your child fell into that 2.48 percentile?

Forget about death for a minute - how about permanent disfigurement and psychological trauma for the rest of their life?

I was never bitten by a dog, but have met a ton of people who have been.

"There is a dog bite epidemic in the United States. There are almost 5 million victims annually -- about 2% of the entire population."

"The median age of patients bitten was 15 years, with children, especially boys aged 5 to 9 years, having the highest incidence rate
The odds that a bite victim will be a child are 3.2 to 1. (CDC.)
Children seen in emergency departments were more likely than older persons to be bitten on the face, neck, and head. 77% of injuries to children under 10 years old are facial.
Severe injuries occur almost exclusively in children less than 10 years of age.
The majority of dog attacks (61%) happen at home or in a familiar place.
The vast majority of biting dogs (77%) belong to the victim's family or a friend.
When a child less than 4 years old is the victim, the family dog was the attacker half the time (47%), and the attack almost always happened in the family home (90%)"

#30 Posted by wonderwoman on December 16, 2007 at 4:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There is no "epidemic": the human population is growing and so is the canine population. With so many more people and so many more dogs, there are more opportunities for bites. It's simple statistics. You are buying into the hype by using words like "epidemic". Try using reason and logic instead.

And nowhere in your post does it state what breed of dog they are referring to. Are they discussing pits, rottweilers, GSDs, or poodles?

By the way: the most reported dog bites belong to...labrador retrievers. This is another reason why you cannot target any breed as being more inherently vicious than another. If you do, you had better start adding all of your labs to that list.

#31 Posted by beachykeen on December 16, 2007 at 4:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wonderwoman,
I agree with you whole-heartedly. So far today I've been told I'm stupid, I'm wrong, I'm shortsighted. All I know is that pit bulls, as I've witnessed in my short life, have been very aggressive, especially when in packs, aggressive and destructive. Why in the world do people continue to buy and breed these creatures?! Maybe 'cuz they're making up for something lacking in their own lives!
If any one of these so-called gentle creatures wanders into my sovereign boundaries, I will definitely shoot to kill. So, you owners of the world's most despicable breed, please do not let them near me. I will shoot to kill!

#32 Posted by almasonlybar on December 16, 2007 at 5:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The Dog Whisperer: Cesar Millan seems to think it is all about the way humans react to dogs. His work with "redline" dogs of all varieties/breeds from poodles with personality disorders to pits who were treated and raised to be aggressive and everything inbetween is truly amazing.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com...
http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/

If you don't know about this fellow or the way he educates owners and guides dog behavior check out the links above.

It isn't about the breed. It is about how we lead them.
I spent a good part of my former career doing field work. I came across all kinds of people and dogs. For the most part all but the dogs who were abused into being attack animals could be dealt with safely when not in a pack. My behavior and actions helped to prevent problems. Now that being said, there were properties which I did not enter because I felt my safety at risk. Most of the time I was able to make arrangements to meet with the folks I needed to but I was careful. Dogs are more intelligent than many people think they are. They do respond well to people like Millan and even people like me!

#33 Posted by BlueTonguedVole on December 16, 2007 at 6:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why do people keep mentioning Ceasar Milan? The man is a multi-millionaire because he can do something no one else can - control aggressive dogs! The few he tends to each episode is just a drop in the bucket.

I watch his show a lot and am constantly astounded by the morons on his show that keep these uncontrollable animals. The worst part is that most of them seem to have young children!

I'd be really impressed if they did a follow up on these owners 3 months later. Maybe they don't because they're all too busy with court dates from the dog attacks.

I posted a link earlier in this thread from dogbitelaw - give it a read.

#34 Posted by wonderwoman on December 16, 2007 at 8:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What about that woman in the Estates found dead, mauled by these dogs, and all of the cats and dogs killed by them?
Put the dogs to sleep and shoot their owners.

#35 Posted by greathornedlizard on December 16, 2007 at 8:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The only misconceptions being spread about this breed are from people who own them and deny traits specific to the breed.

Unfortunately .you cant love away traits that are bred into dogs. Pits are not big teddy bears.

Most every breed was bred for a purpose..collies herd, terriers dig out small animals, greyhounds race..yadda yadda. Pits were bred as fighting machines, powerful, tenacious with the drive to win.
Once engaged in a fight, they
have to be dragged away ..alot like chihuahuas, only who cares when a chihuahua goes ballistic.

If these dogs were reliable when trained we would see more of them working as service dogs. We dont because the breed is still not stable enough for them to be used in that capacity.

There are tons of breeder sites out there where they are honest and warn prospective owners exactly what they will be getting into when obtaining this breed. Both good AND bad. Unfortunately the bad outweighs the good because this breed when its bad is deadly.

Owners of these dogs who fail to keep their animals out of trouble are the problem but since so many of these people exist and dont take care of this dangerous breed properly and there is no way to monitor who is a good owner and who isnt until the worst happens, the breed is getting blacklisted from more and more cities as it should be.

#36 Posted by firefly16 on December 16, 2007 at 9:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This entire little show is a con.

Victoria Macchi, you got tricked. Understandable, since these people use an innocuous-sounding name to hide their true interests.

"Responsible dog ownership" is code from the FOR-PROFIT BREEDERS.

Breeders don't care about the dogs or public safety. They care about the MONEY to be made breeding and selling these dogs.

They don't want rules or laws, because they want to be completely unregulated so they can make as much money as possible. That's why they don't want "breed specific laws."

There is NO responsible pit bull breeder. NONE. These dogs fill the pounds and shelters, and most good homes can't have them. They are sought after by fighters and thugs.

The only people breeding pit bulls are money-hungry individuals cashing in.

And the "dog obedience trainer" (a meaningless term as trainers are a dime a dozen, and can't resolve or agree on even basic canine issues) is absolutely not telling the truth. Pit bulls are and were SELECTIVELY BRED to be aggressive and fight. And they still are!

Pit bulls are number one on the list for killing people. Because of their high prey drive, many pets and small children are getting attacked and killed. And many of the dogs that are killing were never mistreated a day in their life.

Pit bulls ARE different from other breeds, and they have special needs for handling and care to protect the dogs and the public.

But because of the FINANCIAL INTEREST by some who profit from these dogs and oppose any regulation, the dogs continue to suffer and the public continues to get hurt and killed.

It is very important to understand that there is a constituency promoting these dogs for the PROFIT MOTIVE, and these people are hiding their true interests under a lot of gooey emotional chatter like this.

#37 Posted by pattibaby on December 16, 2007 at 11:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bring it on junkyard.

#38 Posted by almasonlybar on December 17, 2007 at 12:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

One other angle never mentioned in these 49+ comments.

Neutering a dog will make it more docile and obedient. I have read that pit bulls that are neutered do not fight as well. With horses, only 2 geldings have won the Kentucky Derby since 1929. So it seems that it does have a calming effect.

I know it works in training sassy racehorses. They may not be Kentucky Derby champions but they can win races. Something about testosterone. We have a lot to learn about the animal world.

JunkYardDog, inbreeding is also a concern, and is one of the major reasons for gelding some male stallions. Young 2 year old colts try to mount other horses or savage them when kept in the same corral. Sometimes you have to separate them with their own pasture to avoid anti-social behavior. By gelding them, they become more social and trainable.

FYI

#39 Posted by volochine on December 17, 2007 at 1:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

FIFTY of these terrible killing machines had a parade in Cambier park this weekend. FIFTY super nasty pit bulls spent the day together without one single person or animal being attacked. This prompted one person to be amazed at how peaceful the breed can be, and to comment, "“From what I know about this breed, I wouldn’t believe this would be possible,”

That's what I call educating the ignorant against the fear-mongering propaganda they have been manipulated into believing.

#40 Posted by myrealname on December 17, 2007 at 6:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The last time I visited Dade County I swore it would be my last until the EVIL and HEINOUS law BSL was rescinded.
Pit-bulls are GREAT and I would loved to be at the pitty party,sounded brilliant.My HEARTIEST CONGRATULATIONS to the ORGANISERS.
To those that that are derogratory to these lovely and loving animals,you can only wish that you were as decent as a dog and it is a shame that you are so easily BRAINWASHED because it is obvious what ever little brainpower you had,is long gone.

#41 Posted by rosksel on December 17, 2007 at 6:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Having read some more of your posts,I have definitely formed the following opinion that many of you humans are a blasted sight more STUPID,USELESS and more VICIOUS than any dog I have ever met.
But it stands to reason and this fact,have you ever heard of a dog
1)RAPING a WOMAN
2)MUGGING ANYONE
3)TYING A FEW BOMBS AROUND HIMSELF AND BLOWING UP FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE
4)HI-JACKING YOUR MOTOR VEHICLE
5)GENERAL MURDER
The list is endless.
Dog definitely go to Heaven,some of you people will undoubtably be meeting your maker SATAN

#42 Posted by rosksel on December 17, 2007 at 8:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Pitbulls are like GUNS...they are waiting at your side to be as dangerous as the YOU want, and if they get in the wrong hands, they are really bad. They are also adored by the gangsta community. If you wanna dance with danger, get youself a killing machine!

#43 Posted by babbas on December 17, 2007 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

babbas should not the gangsters be EUTHANISED.

#44 Posted by rosksel on December 17, 2007 at 12:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What a wonderful article and a fabulous group of people who are taking a stand against the ignorance that seems to be so prevalent in this country.

After reading some of the comments in response to this article, I really don't know what to be more disturbed about; the pathetic minority whose irresponsible (and often abusive) pitbull ownership has ruined the reputation of pitbulls all over this country, OR the amount of ignorant/naive/narrow minded people who leave stupid comments in regard to pitbulls being killing machines, and that they should all be euthanized. Any dog can be a weapon in the wrong hands, including but not limited to, the two savage labradors that lunged at my pittie as we were walking - on leash - last week! Get your facts right before leaving such stupid comments or maybe I will have to start fighting for legislation that bans stupid people!!

#45 Posted by rasputina101 on December 17, 2007 at 11:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

On dogs in general:

Its not the BREED its the BREEDING. All dogs were originally bred to live with humans and be help mates and protectors. Anyone remember years ago the bad reputation that Doberman Pincshers (sp?) were getting. Turning on owners, attacking other dogs, and all of the other things that American Pitbulls are being accused, and in some instances rightfully so, of.

Close examination of the Dobey's showed this to be true and based on solid medical fact. The Dobey's of America, as with so many other breeds, were becoming so inbred that many were having problems with the cranium ceasing its growth/ expansion BEFORE the brain ceased its growth. This caused extreme pressure on the brain of the dog and, quite literally, drove it crazy. As time went on dog breeders began to notice a plethora of problems cropping up in "pure" breeds in America. Shepards were developing major hip problems early in their lives and so forth. This led to the popular "back breeding" found amongst dog breeders today.

As with any bulldog they naturally "lock jaws" when attacking. This is the ability to cramp their jaw muscles in the closed posititon. Other dogs can learn it but to bull dogs it is instinctive. Some companies used to sell "sticks" that you were supposed to insert in the mouth and pry the jaws apart. Throught the years I found the best thing to do was insert the stick in the collar and twist it to choke the dog until it released its jaws or passed out.

The Pitbull gets the bad rep because of the Media and no other reason. The very small number that attack people and other dogs that get attacked by pits make the news because of the severity of the attack. Remember "If it bleeds it leads".

Who reports the Chiauaua (sp?), Pomeranian, Pug, and other small breeds that attack people all the time? What six foot, 200 pound, manly man is going to go to the cops and say "That woman's Pomeranian bit my ankle."? In truth I have seen far more smaller breeds actually bully larger, more dangerous (to include the infamous American Pitbull) because they have gotten used to the fact that a human will come over to protect them when it gets too dangerous. Not to mention that smaller breeds are just naturally more aggresive.

When a cop pulls someone over and that "cute" Pomeranian jumps in the drivers lap and starts barking and snapping it gets ignored. What happens when a larger breed starts the exact same behaviour??

#46 Posted by Neal on December 19, 2007 at 1:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am glad to see that there are people who know that Pitbulls are not by nature vicious dogs. So much is media hype. Unfortunately, when they say pitbull dog they automatically assume they are talking about the American Pitbull Terrier. Unfortunately they don't realize that there are 24 other breeds of dogs that look like the American Pitbull Terrier and are often confused with them. As with other breeds there are dogs within that breed that have been bred poorly and produce dogs that are less than desirable. How is that the dogs fault?
Dogs were always bred to work along side humans as companions and family protectors. There are many dogs that most people should not have. They are not for novice owners or those who do not have the time or willingness to do what it takes to raise and train a dog to live alongside humans and other animals. That goes for any dog. If a dog (no matter the breed) are not socialized properly and trained well they will be less than desirable dogs. Whether they are a small dog or a large one. I have been around people who think they know how to raise and train dogs. They do more damage. There are certain rules for dealing with dogs. The human must be the leader. If you get a dog from a breeder make sure that if for some reason you don't want or can't handle the dog you can bring the dog back. Learn about the breed and what to expect from that breed. Speak and visit with several owners of the breed to find out more personal experiences with the breed. That will help you make an informed decision about getting that breed. People think that all dogs are similiar they just come in different sizes. Unfortunately that is not true.
I am tired of hearing about how mean and vicious pitbulls are. Each dog should be judged for their individual attributes. NOT all pitbulls are vicious as NOT all labs are sweet.
Unfortunately the media attention is focused at this specific breed of dog, because the breed is being used and abused by humans for entertainment purposes by dog fighting and they then make the whole breed bad. How is that the dogs fault? I remember 15 years ago that Akitas where on the medias hit list.
American Pitbull Terriers are no more dangerous than any other dog. Yes they are powerful and strong. So they now should be held accountable for their genetics and how humans misuse and abuse that. What is truly dangerous is the attitudes that people have towards animals that are behaving the way they were trained. Not all training is done by actual training, some is done by neglecting actual training. A dog does not know how to behave if it has never been taught too. That is not the dogs fault!

#47 Posted by Luvmypit on December 24, 2007 at 1:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i think pitbulls are the bomb and every one who said it is the owner is totally right and anyone who said they would shoot a pitbull if it came in their yard has obviously never met a nice one!!!!!!!

#48 Posted by kalob on April 29, 2008 at 8:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)



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