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Helping out flood victims

-- The Red Cross is operating a disaster aid station in the parking lot of the Bonita Beach Road Home Depot. The site will be open from 10 a.m. to 7 p.m. through Saturday and will provide snacks, lunch and dinner.

-- Sandbags are available at most local fire stations. In Bonita, they are at Station Four, 27701 Bonita Grande Drive.

-- Those with flooded wells should call Environmental Engineering at 239-274-2200 for information on how to sample water and where to bring a sample for bacteriological testing.

-- The Red Cross shelter at Estero Community Center is requesting donations of long pants, casual working shirts, children’s shoes, socks and underwear, school supplies and diapers. There are more than 50 babies at the shelter.

-- Goods and services for flood victims can be donated through the United Way, at 211. Cash can be donated through the Red Cross, at 239-278-3401, or through United Way.

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— For all the head-scratching over flood levels, there were simpler ways to figure out whether waters in east Bonita Springs were rising or falling this week.

On Wednesday, homeowners used poles, watermarked objects and visible currents to determine that waters had fallen and were continuing to fall. But considering the potential impacts of high or low tides, those judgments were never sure bets.

On Thursday morning, the Bonita Springs Fire district made its own call — after placing wooden stakes in nine areas throughout the floodwaters, they determined levels had dropped by an average of an inch and a half. By Thursday afternoon, the levels had dropped by two total inches in most places, officials said.

But floodwaters remained steady at Imperial Bonita Estates and Manna Christian, said Debbi Redfield, a spokeswoman for the Bonita Springs fire district.

No rain had fallen in the Imperial River basin by Thursday afternoon. But a forecast for the next few days calls for slow-moving showers with the potential to dump a lot of rain, said National Weather Service Meteorologist Todd Barron.

Experts say flood levels hinge on the possibility of rain.

“Whether the drop continues depends on whether we get any more rain right now,” said Susan Sanders, a spokeswoman for the South Florida Watershed Management District.

Otherwise, the Imperial River’s cresting on Tuesday is moving water toward the Gulf faster, she said.

“That tells you that the majority of water moving through the basin is going down and is now in a steady flow,” Sanders explained.

Still, the waters are nowhere near low enough to allow homeowners to move back into homes on closed streets, said Redfield.

“We have no idea how long it will take for the water to drop or for teams to be able to get in and do damage assessments,” she said.

Those assessments must be done before people can move back in. The fire district will make initial reports, and the county will come out afterward, Redfield said.

As of Thursday afternoon, there were 482 people affected by the floods registered at the shelter set up at the Estero Community Park.

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Now is the time to get code enforcement in there and make it safe for the people who live there. If they miss this opportunity to improve the infrastructure it may not happen again for years. If a child gets hurt because of bad wiring, or because there are no smoke and carbon dioxide alarms it will be the fault of code enforcement for not doing their job when they had the chance.

#1 Posted by docwatson on August 28, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Naplescracker....after that rain yesterday my yard looks just like it did after Fay. Must have been a small line because they didn't get it at Sabal Palm or 951.

#2 Posted by hadenuf on August 28, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Almost 3" of rain yesterday near Wilson and Immokalee Rds.

#3 Posted by swampbuggy on August 28, 2008 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I believe it. Still, this is nothing compared to what we went through back in 95. For 2 months the car sat in the road and the van brought us back & forth to the house. The ground was saturated and it rained everyday. It was fun getting the kids to the bus stop. But we did it and didn't complain. back then I only paid $10,000 for 2.5 off of Immokallee & Wilson. Still worth it.

#4 Posted by hadenuf on August 28, 2008 at 12:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I thought they were going to close it down 2 years ago. If you look up manna christian in the search, it brings up real estate transactions. Almost sound like these people are buying up the lots?

#5 Posted by hadenuf on August 28, 2008 at 12:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Same with my neighborhood NaplesCracker. We have been getting heavy downpours every afternoon. Every morning it appears like the water is finally starting to recide but then we get the heavy rain and by dinner time we are flooded over again.

If we could just get a couple of days with no rain most of this water would have a chance to run off.

Just part of the excitement of living here in the swamps. It's either dry as a bone or we are wallowing in the water.

#6 Posted by swfl_ff on August 28, 2008 at 1:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope it isn't. That is where the fire dept. got its wooden stakes.

#7 Posted by swampbuggy on August 28, 2008 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It really is a sad state when the fire dept. has to put wooden sticks in the ground to determine what is happening. Can anyone tell me where the Water Management Distict is? Isn't this there job?
When there is a fire, Forestry responds even when it is not on public land. FWC responds to many non-wildlife calls. The only thing the WMD has done is to make a statement they were determining the extend of flooding and would get back to us.
You would think they could use some of their equiptment and at least try to help.

#8 Posted by swampbuggy on August 28, 2008 at 3:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lee County doesn't have the brains that Collier County has. If you live where it floods move.
I lived in New Orleans for 12 years and have been living in Naples for 20 years. I moved from New Orleans because it flooded every 3 years. At some point, people have to use their brain and move. The drainage in Lee County Sucks. What is so difficult to understand!!!

#9 Posted by nightranger on August 28, 2008 at 9:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Water levels are still on their way up in parts of Big Cypress National Preserve. And Lake Okeechobee just broke above 14 ft. Find out for yourself at The South Florida Watershed Journal (http://sfwj.blogspot.com)

#10 Posted by rsobczak on August 28, 2008 at 9:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Swamp4, you really think that the "Criminal and Diabolical" entity known as SFWMD would actually do anything to benefit the human species?????? They are too bust lying to the public or doing shady back door deals somewhere that will make our lives even worse!

#11 Posted by lswjth2 on August 29, 2008 at 8:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

#11 Swamp4u2

I don't believe it is historical in nature. Or at least not designated so. Its only been there a few decades at most. It does look like they are putting in a steel bridge for pedestrians on the West side of the Railroad tracks in Depot Park.

Right now is when the City Council members should be driving around looking at drainage areas that are not running bank full and start figuring out how to get excess water diverted to those areas to help it run of to areas that are not as flooded.

It's also a good time to start recording where the drainage appears adequate but for some reason is not. I am noticing a lot of plugged culverts and storm drains that hold water beyond the amount of time the areas they drain are flooded.

Some of you may remember times when it rained heavily in your areas as children. Ditches and other drainage would get backed up. Pop's would have you out there with a shovel clearing it out.

This is the same thing only on a larger scale. Of course the fear of litigation by the "powers that be" for clearing out drainage that obviously needs it keeps most people from taking the initiative to do it themselves.

Let's face it. If you or I were to start going down the Imperial River and removing snags, junk, over hanging trees in danger of being washed out, and anything else that might look like a potential drainage problem then most likely someone would call the law on us. Where as twenty or so years ago the people affected by it would most likely thank you and offer you a beer on your way by.

It wasn't all that long ago I was helping the Park Rangers at Koreshean to clean up some parts of the Estero River and next thing we knew the Sheriff's Department had been called to investigate.

What really irks me is these organizations like SFWMD, that say at one time "it is our responsibility" then turn around and say it is not their responsibility. Usually this revolving door policy of "responsible/ not responsible" is directly related to "get money/ cost money".

It is not that uncommon to be told that the ditches in your front yard are your responsibility. But when you try to maintain them you are later told to leave them alone as they are the responsibility of (insert "grubber-mint" agency here). And you need a permit to do anything with them.

As we all know it is a little too late to go seeking permits when you and your neighbors have water lapping at the threshold of your front door from an overnight flood. Especially when 30 minutes of shovel work would alleviate the problem.

It is a sad state of affairs when the City says "Yes", the County says "No", the State says "Not our problem", and the Feds say "Prosecute".

I think it far beyond the time when we, as Citizens, need to start saying "Chuck you, Farley" whilst flying the rigid digit.

#12 Posted by Neal on August 29, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think it is time the SFWMD ( South Florida Wrongfull Mass Deception ) Is audited and investigated not to mention a lawsuit for misapropraitions of funds and downright fraud. They will get away with it as long as no one steps up and does something, The Miccosukee Tribe went nose to nose with them and won. It can be done.

#13 Posted by ravenhawk on August 29, 2008 at 8:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)



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