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Naples developer Jack Antaramian is considering selling the 22-acre plot at Goodlette-Frank Road and Fifth Avenue South, formerly Grand Central Station.
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NAPLES Plans for a public park in downtown Naples may be blooming.
Naples attorney John Passidomo said Thursday he was setting up meetings with several Naples City Council members to discuss options for a portion of Renaissance Village. Several council members expressed interest in purchasing all, or part, of the 22-acre parcel of land on Goodlette-Frank Road and Fifth Avenue South.
The property is owned by local developer Jack Antaramian, and has an appraised taxable value of $17.9 million.
“We’ve looked at the mayor’s idea for a public park at Renaissance Village and have come up with some possibilities,” Passidomo said. “They’re really in the formative stages right now.”
Passidomo said he planned to meet with individual council members on Thursday, Friday and Tuesday to discuss the project. He was still trying to reach the four additional council members Thursday afternoon.
Naples City Councilman Bill Willkomm said he had a message from Passidomo early Thursday afternoon, but had not yet spoken to him about a meeting. Willkomm said he was “intrigued by the possibilities” for the property.
Mayor Bill Barnett told council in June that he spoke with Antaramian about whether the city could purchase the property. Around the same time, Councilwoman Teresa Heitmann said she was approached by several community members who asked whether the city was considering purchasing the property.
Barnett has said the city could use the property as a public park and Heitmann has said she thought the property would be ideal for a storm water park because of its size.
Heitmann said she had not heard from Passidomo on Thursday, but that she still felt purchasing all, or a portion, of the property would be a wise move.
“I’m still interested,” she said. “It could be the solution to our water storage needs.”
Passidomo said the whole property will not be on the table when he talks to council members, since at least a portion of the land has a dedicated use.
A small parcel of land will be dedicated to a Florida Gulf Coast University Naples campus. A second parcel of land is being considered for an office building. A third parcel of land could be acquired by a third party, Passidomo said.
That leaves a maximum of 15 acres for the city to buy, but Passidomo said there are several smaller variations.
The price of the property has not been set either, though Passidomo said recent appraisals will be looked at to provide fair market value to council.
The city would need would need to bring the request to purchase the land to a referendum before it could move forward. Bond issues that are paid back with property taxes must get voter approval.








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#1 Posted by naplesres on August 28, 2008 at 9:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I thought the city was crying about not having money and having to fire employees. Now they are looking at bailing out old Jackie. What another crock from the city. I am betting that the city councel will also vote to give themselves another raise because they do such a great job. I still cant believe that the city is giving the councel members lifetime medical, and are now paying for an ex councel members bills at The Moorings.
#2 Posted by getoverit1 on August 28, 2008 at 9:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Rumor is that Jack Antaramian is donating the 10 acres to the City in a show of gratitude for all the moolah that he scored on 5th Avenue.
What a gentleman and a scholar!
As Naplesres suggests: The small merchants that were driven out by the high rents on 5th can now set up tables in a flea-market setting on part of the 10 acres and Karma will be good again...unless it rains...
#3 Posted by Naplestango on August 28, 2008 at 9:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Naples Central Park!
#4 Posted by streetrodder on August 28, 2008 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
A park would be nice in Golden Gate Estates. There is no place (other than school facilities) for groups and people to congregate. When I moved out here 13 years ago there was talk of a park similar to Lakes Park in Lee County. Haven't seen nothing yet. the only areas of recreation are the schools which are supposedly turned over to parks & rer after 3:30 pm are locked. The only park is Max Hasse. Come on Collier County, the population does not end at 951, Collier Blvd, or what ever you want to call it. We have enough population to support 5 elementry, 2 middle, and 1 high school. The area around Wilson and Immokolee Rd. Is crying for a park. Something that the lights will be on for us to use without having to pay individually for it. We all pay for the parks in out property taxes. Sure would be nice to have on near us that wasn't having issues with the schools.
#5 Posted by hadenuf on August 28, 2008 at 9:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Bail out Jack. Way to go.
#6 Posted by chap914 on August 29, 2008 at 12:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Nothing is free, but many things are of great value and others are priceless. That open space and its potential to ease the pressing stormwater situation is an idea the Council cannot ignore. Hopefully the parties can craft a proposal tnat will allow the voters to concur. We need this greenspace for future generations. We must not be short-sighted.
#7 Posted by unygfw on August 29, 2008 at 6:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Buy when the time is right. This is a central location for the city. Green space in this area will improve everyones quality of life.
#8 Posted by yes on August 29, 2008 at 7:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Getovert1, If the City does come to terms with Antaramian, it goes to voter referendum, and the voters make the choice, so vote it up or down when the time comes, and quit whining.
#9 Posted by savvypoli on August 29, 2008 at 7:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Not a bad idea if the city voters are willing to pay for it.
Actually a park that would provide a place for storm water runoff in that area would be a great idea. The neigborhood just to the north of this location floods almost everytime there is a heavy rain.
Of course there is always the need for some green space. Better than another bunch of overpriced condo sitting there.
#10 Posted by swfl_ff on August 29, 2008 at 8:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow nothing makes you people happy, more development...Wah wah wah they're building too much wah wah wah. Oh instead of building lets make it a park....Wah wah wah now we have to pay for it...wah wah wah. Thank God the bloggers here aren't running the city, it would be one big cry baby party. Especially you firehauck, its hard to believe you can be that angry at 5:14am.
GGE wants a park, do some research and present it to the County. You live in a rural/residential area, there is nothing zoned for a park. So get off your duff find some land thats for sale and show the commissioners
#11 Posted by trehuger on August 29, 2008 at 8:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This land is too valuable to be taken off the tax rolls for a drainage park. Just a thought but each time I go by Cambier park it is usually pretty empty, why would a park three short blocks away be so popular.
#12 Posted by kneejerk on August 29, 2008 at 9:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
How about a dog park?
#13 Posted by HollyKnoxville on August 29, 2008 at 3:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Buy the 4 acres of crime laden, run down apartments adjacent to the 8-9 acre Anthony Park on the Gordon River and create a 12-13 acre park with something the entire county can use for recreation, boating access, stormwater drainage...etc.
Either way the more green space the better, but preserving water front property on the Gordon River will do a lot more for Naples Bay in addition to providing benefits to both city and county residents.
#14 Posted by naplesrocks on August 29, 2008 at 5:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Can't believe this idea is still alive. Where does the City get the money? Why would Jackie, and his partners (you don't think he can afford to buy all his land alone do ya) drop 8mil on selling this when they paid 25mil?
I like the idea of selling it to the Seminoles, putting a Hard Rock Hotel on the property, with a casino!!! In downtown Naples, within a mile of the beach, it would be a gold mine for the city, and community. Hate to see Jackie and the clan make a profit off the land, but it would be minimal compared to what everyone else can make.
Will never happen, just like a park will never happen.
#15 Posted by sowestfla1975 on August 29, 2008 at 10:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am generally for thoughtful, planned development, and allocating land for green spaces is part of that. However, this idea to develop a park strikes me as irresponsible in several ways. First, there are ways to develop green space that are more fiscally efficient than letting the city buy the land and develop a park. For instance, using covenants or other legal measures compels developers to set aside land. This approach has two advantages. First, it allows developers to determine what land they convert to green space. Second, this approach effectively mirrors a 'user tax', because it directly affects only those who purchase real estate in the developed areas. My second concern is that the city continues to grow, primarily through annexation, but the city has actually cut back on services, thanks largely to the City Manager's efforts. Because of this, the city is failing to keep pace with current growth and undermining its future growth; yet, the city's leaders want to buy a $17 million piece of land that will generate little, if any, real revenue? This isn’t only shortsighted, it is a slow move to fiscal suicide. My last concern focuses on the city's leaders' ongoing fixation with this property. I was troubled by the mayor's 'vision' for the space back in May. I find even more troubling, and more than a little ironic, that Bill Wilkomm is 'intrigued by the possibilities for the property'. At Willkomm’s insistence, the city continues to cut its bureaucracy, but now he supports increasing the amount of land that the bureaucracy administers?
In conclusion, maybe this possible deal is not a city bailout of Jack Antaramian, but logic and the prevailing facts sure point to something strange.
#16 Posted by NaplesResident27 on August 30, 2008 at 12:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
So, since they appear to have lied about not having enough budget money, can the contract agreement that was passed by the BCC to give the City of Naples 1 Million Dollars per year for their Parks for the next 10 years be cancelled?
That's 10 Million Dollars we can use for building parks where they are REALLY NEEDED!
#17 Posted by QtrPndr on August 31, 2008 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm very pleased at the idea of a park at that very convenient location. Unless we keep the city accessible to pedestrians, more and more business will be diverted from downtown into the outskirts instead.
I am not a businessman, I'm a pedestrian who would greatly enjoy having a place to sit near downtown where somebody isn't trying to sell me food or jewelry. Just a nice, peaceful place to enjoy the city. That really is priceless.
It's very short-sited to give up the opportunity for the last huge chunk of downtown undeveloped area, just because money is tight. You think it's tight now, wait until the whole downtown is industrialized and so ugly that nobody wants to be there. Sacrificing an area's beauty is always the precursor to devaluation.
#18 Posted by naplesnewby on September 1, 2008 at 5:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
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