How do we know he had a gun in his car? If he didn't let them search the car, then I could see why he would be terminated.

Ed feels it is more important to 'make a statement' than to ' HAVE a JOB!'
He likely can barely afford to own and supply ammo for his gun. Employers are NOT lining up to hire this genius.

as much of an advocate for this new law. i say this guy is an idiot.
i feel a lawsuit coming soon

I see you subscribe to the sheep mentality that has been taught to you by Dick Cheney and his bunch of KKKarl Rove thugs.

Although I think guns are the stupidest thing to carry in your car or even to own. If people fail to stick up for their rights then their government will slash the constitution and before you realize it they will be wiretapping your phones without warrants, seizing suspects and holding them without trial and using the Patriot Act in awkward ways to throw people behind bars.

Maybe Paul Revere and his buddies should just have watched TV rather than stick up for their rites.

According to Florida Laws Chapter 2008-7 section 7e, explosives must be Disney's main business in order for them to be exempt from this law. Maybe Disneyland and Disney World are just a cover for Disney's true business objectives.

Please, this guy will get his job back after about four years of trials and BS. He'll eventually get back pay with interest, pain and suffering etc. In the meantime, he's working under the table and will end up making a fool of Walt Disney and the poorly written law.

In the State of Florida, there is a recognized right to bear arms for Lawful self defense. Do Employers Have the power to blatently violate an individuals Civil, or Constitutional rights simply because that person works for them.? I don't think so. This is kind of like saying, I own this business, and I do not want to hire pregnant woman, or disabled people. An employer can not do that, because it violates laws as well as the individuals rights.

Shhhhhh...can you hear that...listen...listen real hard...it's...it's Charlie Heston ROLLING in his grave.

I must admit, Charlie had the "Disney World" of gun lockers in his home basement.

Right-on Disney!

Look we all saw this coming.You have some for the law on one side and then you have some on the other side against. These kind of things will always make news. Then we can write our comments. I love this country.

Man I got to get a life!!!!!!!!!

Does Disney also ban Bibles in cars, too?

There are rights to be protected here. Just because you hire someone doesn't mean you can make employees leave their rights at home.

Disney is living in a fairytale world.

When you work for someone else, then you have to enter their private property. Anyone can restrict both behavior and possessions on their property. That right supercedes your right to carry a gun. For an employer to discriminate based on age, sex, race, color, creed or religion is illegal. In other words, if Disney said that only their Catholic employees can bring a gun to work-that is illegal. There are many other rights that an employer does not have to recognize. You have a right to grow your hair down to your waist. Your employer can limit the length of your hair for any number of reasons. Same with smoking...you have a right to smoke, but not on your employers property if they so prohibit. That's why this law will never hold up in court.

swfljim the LAW says that you are wrong.

What does the Supreme Court know, anyway?
;-)

swf, Good, intelligent post. You are correct.

I look at it 2 ways its great you can keep your gun in the car at work. but if someone comes in and starts shooting...wheres your gun??? also while I'm all for the new law I think it will promote more vehicle break-in's and more stolen guns used by bad guys

I wonder what would be said if someone got in to a theme park with a gun and started shooting. Disneys fault for not searching?????

Bramble,bibles don't kill,guns does it.
Remember 2 weeks ago,that worker that get mad 'cause his supervisor chew him up,went to his car get his gun (he had the right to have that gun in his car)and killed the supervisor and other 4 employees??this law make that even easer to happen,that is what the guns are for,killing people.
How many times a week we see in the news that a regular people kill a thief protecting their home or property??and how many people is being killed in the streets due robberies and drug dealings??
Now don't tell me that the right to own guns is for self protection.

Okay jag... so let's take away the guns. You don't think we wouldn't still have everyone stabbing and beating each other to death? Actually, I guarantee that if everyone in the whole world only had a bible it wouldn't be more than a few minutes before some dolt beat someone to death with it.

And how do we know that he even had the gun in his car?? He wouldn't let them search the car, so....?

From the Palm Beach Post...April 10/08

"The bill is a watered down version of the original bill that was sponsored by state Rep. Dennis Baxley. In the revised bill, employees can keep their guns locked in their cars at work, but business owners would have the right to prohibit employees from doing so “when reasonably necessary?? for safety reasons."

maybe Disney is going to argue that the noise from the fireworks would mask the sound of a shooting?

was that in a movie or something?

is private property still Private when all are welcomed? and if they penalize one person, for Allegedly having a firearm in His vehicle,will they return the money for Everyone that Alegedly has one in Their car,and make them leave?? whats next ?unlawful vehicle searches?most rent-a cops dont even know How to do "legal" procedures,unless they have LE training,,,,on the other hand when i have festivals and /or big BBQ's on my land i Prohibit street / illegal drugs,,but, i dont ,wont,Cant search every vehicle,and person,, also the drugs are already illegal,,big difference,,,if caught , they are made to leave right then,no discussion,,,,and for the posts about guns are the killers, BS!!!, the one that pulls the trigger is the one that kills,,,and you say that Bible Dont kill??/,,bubba ,,in your way of saying it, They have killed at least 100 times more people than guns,,, how many Americans have been KIA/WIA Just in our "war" with Iraq ?,, Thats being fought mostly because they happen to Hate Christians,,, isnt That deaths ,,over the bible?, and all thru history ,theres been countless feuds,fights and out and out Wars over the beliefs of the bible,,,ill trust my life to my guns and knowledge i have of them And the people that try to cause harm to me and mine,,,,,,,

what's the problem??? he said he was bringing a gun to the workplace to leave in his car and called the media to say he would defy Disney's workplace rule....when confronted he did not have the strength of his conviction to let security search the car and find the gun.....he lost!

as for the rambling post #28 which is all over the map...if guns don't kill people as he/she claims then how can he/she claim the bible kills people....can't have it both ways

well #29 i guess you just cant Read a map,,,,, if you read what i said,,,,,, it was said in His way of saying that if Guns kill, in other words ,sir/madam,, i was simply saying that bibles kill too,,,, that in case you still cant read,,is called sarcasm,,its not having it both ways,,,,
as for the guard Saying that he was bringing a gun,, sure as heck doesnt mean he Did,,especially since they cant prove that he Did,,thats like you<as an example> said that you were going to rob a bank, would You expected to be arrested just on your Saying that? if so, then maybe you should go to a country that has freedom of speech,,,,,
geeeeze ,this is like explaining civics to a child,,,,whats next ? Map reading????,,,,,

#30.....you certainly go to great lengths to post "sarcasm"....you equate the Iraq war as a religious war...."isn't that death over the bible"..and then go on to say throughout history the bible has created wars...........sarcasm???....I think not

as for the Disney guard he made it a media event then didn't have the guts to go through with it...would not let Disney search his car so by not complying he admitted he had a gun in the car....gone!...fired!

as for a country with freedom of speech...what a stupid statement....just goes to your credibility

perhaps you should read your own jumbled post

#31 you Have to be on drugs,,,,,,, what a simpleton,,,if you cant Read whats written, then theres just no hope for you,,,but heres another history lesson, WE happen to have that freedom of speech,and many a good man and woman have fought and died to preserve that ,and all the other Rights that We have, so if you have any other derogitory comments about this country, ,, write it down on a 2X4 piece of lumber and shove it where the sun dont shine,then jump up and land on your 4th point of contact,,,,,,,,,,

Disney will lose bigtime.
I'm really surprised at you libs. So you want employers searching your cars without a warrant? Don't bring your doobies to work...

And here we go....
Did he or didn't he have a weapon? We will never know. So Disney supervisors willingly broke the law by ASSUMING he had a weapon in his car and terminating him? Can you say lawsuit boys and girls?

Should be an interesting, long,drawn out court battle. If he refused the search, he was well within his rights, correct? I believe he was.
Why would anyone willingly submit to ANY search of his or her vehicle or person. An automatic response of "No I do not authorize,submit or condone any search of my body or vehicle" should be a standard response irregardless if he did actually have said weapon. He said he was bringing a weapon, he possibly did. Disney had no right what so ever to search his vehicle. EVEN if it was on private property, PERIOD.
Remind me never to go to Disney again. Bunch of azzbags!!

#22 Posted by jagv0565
"bibles don't kill"
I beg to differ Jag, The Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been going on for how many decades now, both religious have different interpretations of the Bible. So can that be viewed that indirectly that Bibles do have a part of death in the middle east?

#16 Posted by swamp4u2. I will make it a point in the future not to view, contribute to, nor profit Disney / ABC / ESPN programming and advertisers.
Seems if they take away the rights of one security guard they really don't need my money.

post #32......what makes you think you are the only country that fought for freedom????

I have too much respect for my American friends to comment any further on this subject

show my post where I made derogatory remarks about the US.... but it was alright for you to initially dis my country in your post
#30..."maybe you should go to a country that has freedom of speech"......talk about being on drugs...you have been smelling that gun cleaner too long

as for the media seeking guard...read your own laws....he was subject to the rules of Disney when he parked his car on the PRIVATE EMPLOYEE parking lot

as for your post #32...when a right winger runs out of what little reason they have they...RESORT TO INSULTS AND DEMEANING COMMENTS...that really gets their point across!!!

really pathetic!!!!

Our constitution says we have the right to bear arms. Not bear arms when our employers say we can. Our government was set up with all kinds of checks and balances the government has guns and so do the people. Many people have been trying to take this right away. I applaude anyone who stands up for their rights. Guns Dont kill. people do. why should criminals who dont follow the law be the only ones who have guns.

canuck i really feel sorry for you,,,,,, thats the best thing that i can say about you, except to use your own words, to describe you,,"really pathetic!!!!",,,,,,,,,,,,,, this has nothing to do with what the article is about, so , i see no sense in continuing this, everyone is a badssa when typing ,, have a nice day,,,,,,

and everyone is so macho when posting anonymously

"write it down on a 2X4 piece of lumber and shove it where the sun dont shine,then jump up and land on your 4th point of contact,,,,,,,,,,"

Bullbat #30

I don't feel sorry for you but you are a sorrowful person but you are right as you only have insults left to post so its best to end your inane comments

#39 Posted by Canuck . Many including myself feel very strongly about our 2nd Amendment Rights as well as our 1st. As you've previously mentioned in your previous posts,you are starting to finally understand that but still fail to fully fathom our commitment and tenacity.
Hence thats why they are #1 and #2 on our Bill of American Rights I believe.
Maybe as a Canadian you fail to understand or comprehend . Maybe if you were an American you might understand better. I'm not going to make excuses for others nor the way they might try to express their views, but as you've seen many are very adamant about it.
I am anything but macho, I would be more then willing to sit down over a cup of coffee or beer and try to explain how strongly I personally feel about the 2nd Amendment if you wish.
Insults are better left to others.
I want to ask this though, why are so ANTI gun? Family member killed with weapon? Rape? Home invasion? You seem very argumentative on the anti gun side and I'm just trying to understand why?
You seem very resentful for some reason towards us that feel so strongly for our 2nd amendment rights.
I honestly feel when we as a country lose and have our 2nd AMendment rights revoked or negated that all hope is lost. Then we might as well just lie down and die, because then we are simply sheep to herd as the powers that be wish.Be it gov't or otherwise.

#40,, good post ,well said, ive never been one to argue very much, and when it gets to a certain point,,ill usually try to walk away, however when it pertains to my Country,family friends or my dog,thats a horse of a different color,outsiders just dont deserve the right to belittle my country ,in any aspect,,,,,to the others on this blog, i offer my apology , for being drawn into something as senseless as above,,,

Jadip811......thank you for a most rational post...why is it that when anyone dare disagree with someone on the subject of guns they are called anti gun or other less affectionate names??
you can go to my history and you will not find anywhere where I said I was against the gun

guns are not for me nor has it been a culture in my country.... the only way we know guns in my country are as killing props

now read my posts that originated on the last subject...after 50 years travelling and vacationing in the US I understand how much your gun amendments of the constitution mean to some of you....in none of my posts have I said anything against this

now what did I say??

in the previous subject where you and I waltzed my posts were to counter claims made such as Canada has gun control and their crime is rampant..Canada has a high murder rate....Toronto is a city wide extensive gun violent crime centre
I posted several facts to refute this

on the subject of this blog I pointed out the Disney guard wanted to make a media circus on his bringing a gun in his car then didn't have the guts to let them find it so he could make his case...he lost...he got fired...
BTW.. if you read the full story in the Orlando newspapers it appears he was already on shaky grounds with his job for past infractions

nothing there against your right to bear arms or that I am anti gun

I also never said any thing derogatory about the US..and I pressed Bullbat to prove it but all he did was post insults after demeaning my country

now for the last part of your question...yes I was held up with the largest gun I ever saw at the 5/3rd bank ATM just north of the Red Lobster on Tamiami...near Coastland

so yes I fear guns but you can keep all the guns you want as long as you keep them away from me

I think I answered all your questions but if not let me know as I have found this dialogue educational despite all the other garbage

Hope this guy, the NRA and the Civil Liberties Union sue Disney. Disney is NOT above the Law.

#42 Posted by Canuck. I knew by something in your words there was some event that transpired.
I'm sorry for your tradegy, sometimes events do happen beyond our control. Actually most of the time we have little control over our environment.
I know traumatic events such as that leave a mental scar, as well as physical at times. I appreciate seeing different points of view from people of all walks of life. As I get older I learn more and yet it still seems like you can never know everything.
Because one bad incident happened you can't condemn all gun owners. One dirtbag decided to use his gun for ulterior motives is not speaking for us all as a whole.
Would you feel any different about guns, if you had been held up with a knife, or taser, or hammer, or other deadly instrument honestly?
I still view a gun as a tool, a deadly tool that deserves the utmost respect for the damage it can inflict. I've been shot before and I can tell you from personal experience it doesn't feel good,and I hope it never happens again. I wouldn't wish that pain upon anyone unless it was an absolute last, final resort for my safety or the safety of my family.

#44 Posted by CutthroatLiberal.
So tell us oh wise one. Whose rights are more important? The business owner or the business worker? Where do your rights end and theirs begin when you are working for someone such as Disney?

Let's give everyone a gun. But in the spirit of our founding fathers, the authors of our constitution, that gun has to be a musket.

Or, we could make improvements in our society that will encourage the notion of the sanctity of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness......

But aw, no- that's mamby-pamby liberal talk ain't it? Improving the quality of life of the shrinking middle class, QUALITY public education. Oh no we can't do that- it smacks too much of Liberalism and it would divert too much money away from the defense contractors and the energy industry... after all, the current modus operandi has yielded unto us so many benefits. Such as the Iraq war, $4.50 a gallon for gas, climate change, an increase of violence in our schools and in our society in general, the highest unemployment rate since 1998, millions of mortgage foreclosures and the largest national budget deficit in our nation's history,
and now, Sweet Jesus! a rather vague law that allows some people to bring their guns to work.

I hope that postal employees are prohibited from this activity.

Said it before, I'll say it again...
We're doomed, and we deserve it.

Sorry, typo on last post- highest unemployment rate since 1978.
But at least gas was less than a dollar a gallon back then. I know, it's relative to the economy of those times,
but now that I'm thinking about it-
what's going to happen in a decade or so when 300 to 500 million Chinese people are driving cars?

So the establishment is allowed to be armed, (I.E. security, staff, etc.) but workers are not?
Hmmmmm...