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Letters to the Editor: July 9, 2008

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Letter of the Day: Peace and freedom

Editor, Daily News:

A friend of mine sent me a Fourth of July card.

I’ve never received a Fourth of July card and wanted to share it with the Daily News readers.

In it she quoted Abraham Lincoln: “Freedom is the last, best hope of Earth.”

This so true with the world we live in today, and:

“We seek peace, knowing that peace is the climate of Freedom.” — Dwight D. Eisenhower.

When I think of peace and freedom, these two men exemplified the challenges that lie ahead for the great United States of America. We must all believe and pursue both peace and freedom in our great land.

I still believe deep in my heart that America is the best country in the world to live because of the struggles we’ve endured to achieve both peace and freedom.

Mary Pagano, Naples

Letter: ... And ever

Editor, Daily News:

Gov. Charlie Crist signed into law Senate Bill 542, which extends the Florida Forever program through 2020 at $300 million a year.

This is the best investment we could make in our children’s future. Extending the Florida Forever program will help protect Florida’s most important assets — its natural spaces and wildlife.

The Nature Conservancy is grateful to Sen. Burt Saunders, R-Naples, for his leadership during the 2008 legislative session. Through Saunders’ efforts, the Florida Forever program remains true to its original mission, protecting Florida’s natural lands while adding some important new objectives; for example, the protection of important rural lands.

Saunders had a key role in making Florida Forever a legislative priority during the 2008 legislative session.

Florida Forever and Preservation 2000 have helped protect more than 2 million acres. The Legislature must appropriate funds to launch Florida Forever bonds in the budget each year, so our job is not done.

We must ensure that funds are spent on the highest conservation priorities, and we must continue to make the case for Florida Forever every day.

Jeff Danter, Orlando, Florida State Director, The Nature Conservancy

Letter: The best we can do?

Editor, Daily News:

Our family has enjoyed the Fourth of July Naples Pier fireworks for several years, including the radio simulcast.

Sadly, we felt this year did not measure up at all to previous celebrations.

There were no “special” fireworks that would have brought oohs and ahhs, and there was no grand finale as in previous years. It seemed as though the display just stopped.

Worst of all was the music selected to accompany the fireworks. Very little was patriotic, and most of the pieces only had a few opening bars played before being switched to the next song. The only good thing about the music was that it mysteriously stopped several minutes prior to the end of the fireworks display, so we had only dead air.

Considering the cost, which was somewhere around $30,000, one would think that the city of Naples could present a display that was thoroughly enjoyable by all.

Our 8-year-old grandson pronounced it “really lame.”

Joyce Goodman, Naples and Lawrenceville, N.J.

Letter: Precipitation participation

Editor, Daily News:

Florida’s rainy season is about to start. And that means inland areas get torrential rainfall, while coastal areas typically get lesser amounts.

Controlled by prevailing winds and localized sea breezes, rainfall variations across small areas (sometimes even a few blocks) can be enormous.

On April 1, I logged 0.62 inches of rainfall (near downtown Naples); the Naples Municipal Airport (about three miles away) recorded 2.95 inches. Yet, Collier, Lee and nearby counties have relatively few rainfall observers to adequately define these variations for forecasting, weather warning and water management programs.

Southwest Florida is not alone. Many places in the United States (including mountain, coastal and urban areas) experience similar localized rainfall variations.

That’s one reason that COCORAHS (the Community Collaborative Rain, Hail and Snow Network) was formed. To see current and historical rainfall data and learn about the program, visit www.cocorahs.org.

For a small investment of about $25, anyone can obtain a heavy-duty 4-inch rain gauge with overflow and become a COCORAHS observer. This gauge allows one to record up to about 12 inches of rain, while still allowing rainfall observations to the nearest hundredth of an inch.

As a meteorologist, I’d like to see more rainfall data on a localized scale to better understand sea breeze impacts and improve forecasting. Also, collecting and analyzing rainfall can easily lead to a middle or high school science fair project.

If any reader is interested in joining COCORAHS (e.g., individuals, fire departments, nature centers) or learning more about the program, please contact me at education@weatherworks.com.

Mike Mogil, Naples, Certified Consulting Meteorologist

Letter: ‘A complete travesty’

Editor, Daily News:

I have just returned from my mailbox, and it was again stuffed full of meaningless drivel from every charity, pitch and messenger wanting my attention, care — but mostly money.

I go so tired last spring of hearing from every aspirant to Congress, whether I knew them or not (all begging for funds) that I changed by affiliation to Independent. All that accomplished was that I was not able to vote in a primary this year.

But what really angers me is that while all the rest of us have had to up the ante to mail a letter first class to 42 cents, these packets stuffed full of pleas for attention are all brought by my mailman for 10 cents, 11 cents or 12 cents postage. How is that allowed?

I pay my bills in person, as my seniority makes it iffy on doing it over the Internet. I know it would save the postage, as each business tells you, but I want to pay a bill that I know is due and paid for. And then, it is necessary to verify my own accounts.

I am addressed by all and sundry as Ms., Mrs., first name, married name, etc. When one arrives, and there are more and more coming to Miss (while they have bought my name from someone), I toss it without opening.

As a Navy widow, I am loyal and anxious to help my government.

Just think of the trees that are wasted in the voluminous paper used, gasoline for the delivery of and waste of time for our postmen. Doesn’t anyone else find this a complete travesty?

Green, it is not. Smart, it is not. Why is it allowed by the U.S. Postal Service?

Dawn Hediger, Naples

Letter: Oh, brother

Editor, Daily News:

It is surprising how emotionally the apologists for Barack Obama react to any challenge made to his empty basket of accomplishments and limited experience.

His limitations are further complicated by a total universe of prior associations that are either eccentric or measurably anti-American.

All candidates for president of the United States must run a gauntlet of public investigation. Those with substantial accomplishment and a wealth of prior, high-quality experience survive the gauntlet unscathed. Those that are defenseless, as is Obama, have historically fallen by the wayside, taken down in the gauntlet by the well placed blows of public exposure.

This has been true, until now. The media’s love affair with Obama, coupled with an American education system that has generated the world’s largest crop of economic and history dullards, have come together to create the “perfect storm,” where Obama may actually become president of the United States.

I would contend that Obama chose to run at this time to avoid creating another eight years of his Senate liberal voting record. He clearly recognized that his actual positions would be his biggest enemy. Obama had to run now before he really existed as a measured candidate.

A recent letter to the Daily News, in a spasm of absurdity, suggested that Obama was worthy of the presidency because he graduated from Harvard Law School.

I’m sure this same writer supported George Bush since he graduated from both Harvard and Yale.

Andrew R. Joppa, Naples

Letter: Direction information

Editor, Daily News:

Recently I read about a speech made by U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson while on tour in Europe. Here is an excerpt from his comments:

“Today, the U.S. economy is going through a rough period. And while we have seen better growth in Europe over the last few quarters, there are signs of a slowdown in Europe in general and the UK specifically. However, emerging economies are expected to continue a period of strong growth, which will support global growth overall.”

Can someone who loves America as much as I do please explain to me why “overall global growth” is in the best interest of the vast majority of Americans? Ever since 1991, when Ross Perot warned us of that giant sucking sound, we Americans have dutifully stood by as our leaders (both parties) in Washington have outsourced 99 percent of our manufacturing base, imported millions of illegal workers and sold key national assets to foreign entities.

First, our wages were replaced by growth in our stock portfolios. Next, we were able to ignore our lost wages by “flipping houses” and the mortgage refinancing. Now, we have $140 oil and $4 gas, but there is no way for average Joe to leverage this bubble.

The net result is a crippled banking system, loss of faith in the U.S. dollar and the second largest American corporation, General Motors, on the verge of bankruptcy.

Where do we turn now? Will a leader please step forward.

Ben MacGowen, Naples

Letter: Go for the flow

Editor, Daily News:

There have been many excellent letters to the Daily News to “drill here, drill now.”

Our stupid Congress fails to act and prevents us from drilling, and Harry Reid, Democrat and House majority leader, instead of listening to 80 percent of the American people, chooses to blame ExxonMobil for not spending more than $10 million on alternative sources of energy. He shows how silly he is.

An oil company is supposed to drill for oil and build refineries and get gas for our cars. Other companies invent alternative energy, such as windmills, etc. That is not an oil company’s job. Our Congress should have promoted drilling 10 years ago, 20 years ago and, yes, 100 years ago, but now we must do it now.

The minute these hateful people we have elected to Congress decide to make this country ours again and energy efficient by drilling for our own oil, the price of gas will go down. We will stop giving our precious monies to the Arabs who want to cut off our heads and make our country bankrupt.

Just think of the jobs that refineries, drilling, etc., will give to Americans. We need these jobs. We need this oil; it is ours. Our country will be great again.

Come on American citizens. Call your congressmen today!

Jeannette Maiale, Naples

Letter: Now, go national

Editor, Daily News:

Of all the recommendations dealing with the concerns on the spiraling cost of oil, there is one recommendation that has not appeared in these letters.

I have been waiting for someone to make this proposal; that is, nationalizing the oil industry.

Oil is a strategic and vital commodity and must be nationalized for the benefit of the American people and their prosperity and economic development.

Nationalization will eliminate the profit margin in the retail price of gasoline.

Once nationalized, the retail price will be reduced by the excessive profit margins that the industry has built into the price of oil.

Our nation can use the profits to reinvest into green industries that will provide the jobs of the future. The profits will also be used to invest in the health and education of the American people.

Six giant oil companies control the industry from exploration to retailing, and we have allowed them to become the most powerful group in the world. Future economic prosperity and stability requires the American people to address the reality that the United States has the most unequal distribution of wealth and income of any major nation in the industrialized world.

What is more powerful than an idea whose time has come?

H.H. Herman, Naples

Letter: Conservatively speaking

Editor, Daily News:

All of us conservatives have been forgotten by both our would-be presidents.

What is a conservative? It’s a person who understands you cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.

You cannot further the brotherhood of man by encouraging class hatred. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.

You cannot build character and courage by taking away man’s incentive. And you cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they should be doing for themselves.

Just listen to Barack Obama. He’s giving you this, and this and this, and who is going to pay? You and me.

Jean Crawford, Naples

Letter: True colors

Editor, Daily News:

What is patriotism? Thomas Jefferson said: “Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.”

Each Friday, for the last three years, from 4:30 p.m. to 5:30 p.m., a small group of us have met at the corner of U.S. 41 and Pine Ridge Road to protest the war in Iraq. This year the Fourth of July fell on a Friday. As usual, there was support for our sign “Honk for Peace” as motorists sped by.

But one passenger, in a moment of patriotic frenzy, or a sense of betrayal, approached the protesters and snatched one of our flags. A brief hassle and heated argument ensued, and the flag was eventually returned.

I do not know who the man was who would deny us our basic freedom of dissent. But I do know that three of the protesters were American veterans representing World War II, the Korean War and the war in Vietnam.

A recent poll shows that 80 percent of Americans are opposed to the war in Iraq. The man who attempted to abuse us represents only 20 percent of the population. But I firmly assert he has every right to his opinion to apparently embrace the policies of President Bush and Sen. John McCain. He does not, however, have a right to steal our property.

While America was built on dissent, we as a people must come together to listen to one another in our struggle for peace and justice everywhere.

That is the true meaning of our flag.

Arlyne Goodwin, Naples

Letter: Spare us

Editor, Daily News:

From one educator to another, Debbie Graham’s letter of July 4 (about enjoying an unpaid summer training sessions with other teachers) exemplifies precisely why teachers will not receive salaries commensurate with their experience, hard work, and responsibilities.

The impression given is typical of elementary teachers: students are children who are cute, fun to work with and worthy of all our free time. Teachers should all be “mommies” in their calling.

I am certain Graham would be happy working gratis, but for those of us who have families to support in the real world, and are just as dedicated, if not more so, Graham’s view is elementary in every sense of the word.

By the way, I — and many others — had already completed her course of study years before it was required. We are not impressed by her self-congratulating posturing and grandstanding.

Michael Stuart, Naples

Letter: Sour music

Editor, Daily News:

After having read the July 4 Daily News for information on the simulcast of the fireworks, we thought we were in for a fun-filled, patriotic Fourth of July as 9 p.m. arrived.

No short welcoming message from our mayor or another city official, but instead commercials on WXFB-FM, B103.9 radio. After the fireworks had been going for a minute to a minute and a half, the DJ mumbled, “Now we’re going to do the fireworks thing” for the Naples Pier and Cape Coral.

What followed was a “mishmash” of rock, hip hop, and the occasional snippet of patriotic music. At one point the DJ accidentally left his microphone “open,” so we all got hear a conversation he was having with an “in-studio” guest!

Most of the music was indiscernible to my admittedly 61-year-old ears. But when I heard “The Macarena,” I thought, what the heck?!

I asked our friend who brought a nice sound system to our party if he had the right station? He replied with the Daily News in one hand and a flashlight on the radio dial. It’s what the paper said.

I spent many years in the radio business and I know it would not have been difficult to prepare a pre-recorded half-hour show of patriotic music to go along with what turned out to be a great fireworks show. (Lord knows there is no shortage of material).

Who was responsible for choosing that station in the first place — the city of Naples, the Daily News? Are the thousands who gathered on our beaches and in their boats, not entitled to an apology from the management of 103.9?

Some will say I’m an “old fuddy-duddy,” but I say a half-hour of patriotic music on the Fourth of July is not too much to ask!

But thanks to the city for a super Fourth of July fireworks show!

Chris Loop, Naples

Letter: You go, girl

Editor, Daily News:

What a thrill to open the Saturday Daily News car section (swflwheels.com) and see Courtney Hansen!

Courtney is a NASCAR fan — but her heart belongs to Naples.

Courtney has much experience holding a microphone at Community School of Naples events, making the PA announcements at Barron Collier High School, doing local car commercials and as a Florida State University spokesperson.

This woman still has the heart of her adoring family and dear friends here in Naples.

Courtney especially has the heart of this woman — her mom.

Connie Walker, Naples

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Wow, Michael Stuart:
Vicious enough?
Take a happy pill or something.

#1 Posted by indigodragonfly on July 8, 2008 at 7:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Joyce Goodman,
Your 8 year old grandson would benefit from a little appreciation that he lives in a country where fireworks aren't bombs going off, meant to kill.
You would benefit from less complaining, and a greater enjoyment of life.

#2 Posted by indigodragonfly on July 8, 2008 at 7:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

H.H.H.
A brilliant idea! Let's put the politicians who created this oil crisis in complete charge. That'll take care of things.

#3 Posted by DinNaples on July 8, 2008 at 8:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Arlyne, Thank you, thank you , thank you, for all of your efforts.
The service members in Iraq and thier families apreciate your efforts to get our troops home ASAP and safely.
Forgive the flag thief, he doesn't know what he's doing.

#4 Posted by bossman1 on July 8, 2008 at 8:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The congress deserves to get a poor job rateing, but it didn't start just one year ago, and arn't about half of congress Republicans?
What have the Republicans in congress done in the last few years other than 'tap thier feet in public rest rooms'?

#5 Posted by bossman1 on July 8, 2008 at 8:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Joyce Goodman - The $30,000 would go a long way to help people in need and those who are suffering. I read there were 20,00 people who attended the fireworks. Where did they all park? I didn't think there was that many parking spaces near the beach.

Dawn Hediger - We live in a wasteful society. The amount of paper wasted on junk mail is staggering. The newspapers are full of advertisements too. Our society is very commercialized. I wonder how much money charities spend on sending junk mail to everyone. I don't feel like contributing to any of them.

Jeannette Maile - Thank goodness you don't run the country.

Arlyne Goodwin - I admire what you are doing, but I don't think it does much good. It won't stop the war. I doubt that it will change anyone's minds. If millions of people would march on Washington, maybe they'd listen.

H.H. Herman - You are right. The U.S. has an unequal distribution of wealth and income.

#6 Posted by rationalman on July 8, 2008 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dawn, this is a classic example of going green. Follow in the footsteps of the prophets of the green revolution. Consume as long as it looks and makes you feel good.

#7 Posted by swampbuggy on July 8, 2008 at 9:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's only 8 minutes ong, but you Gorebal Warming fiends won't watch it. But I'll sum it up with the simple saying that the debate isn't over except in the minds of sheep.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YEJ5pHV...

#8 Posted by GoneFishin on July 8, 2008 at 9:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Is a green lifestyle just the new survivalism?"

http://nukesylo13.com/component/conte...

#9 Posted by GoneFishin on July 8, 2008 at 9:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

eddie, $30 grand goes nowhere. Do you donate to those police fund raisers that call all the time? 50 percent of that money goes nowhere, too.

#10 Posted by GoneFishin on July 8, 2008 at 9:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ben McGowan:

Money goes where the best deal is. The US may have the most experienced, educated and hardworking workers (it does) in the world. But we also have people like Bossman and his ilk who think that they are entitled to $10 for the same work that can be done for $1 in other countries. Plus if you add the US corporate tax rate compared to countries who have little or no corporate taxes, what do you expect?

That's not to say that politicians have not mismanaged US monetary policy, and have assisted in hastening the decline of the dollar. Witness the correlating increase in commodities which has occurred on the watch of Bernanke, Pelosi and Reid. But come on. If you had a choice between paying income taxes or not paying income taxes, what would you do? You'd sell (your US manufacturing plant) and move to Ireland with lower or no taxes.

But don't forget that the financial players are also selling the dollar and all things US because of the fear of the upcoming Obama/Pelosi/Reid administration. ie: An inexperienced president, increased taxes, bigger budgets and lower economic activity, anti-buiseness, yada yada yada. Rampant selling for whatever reason, in this case uncertainty and fear, (US currency included) creates a buyer's market, hence cheaper.

#11 Posted by roadhouse on July 8, 2008 at 11:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jean Crawford:

A true "conservative" is not concerned about what a women wants to do with her body. Or they are not concerned about what I do, with whoever I want to do it with, in my bedroom.

In other words, a true "conservative" wants less government meddling in their daily lives.

Just to leave us alone is what we want, which neither democrats or republicans seem to want to do.

#12 Posted by roadhouse on July 8, 2008 at 11:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Joyce,

I thought the fireworks and music were great. Why don't you and your annoying son head to Lame Jersey next year, and check out THIER fireworsks?

#13 Posted by IndyFlorida on July 8, 2008 at 11:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I didn't mind paying $4.00 a gallon. I just figured we were getting the better gas since we're Americans. But now GM is trying to dump their Hummer division. If they do that, how the hell am I gonna chase gophers off the Casa De BillyBob Ranch?

And ya got any idea how much it cost's to fill the Midnight Express at Marco Bay Marina?

TIME FOR CHANGE!!!!!!!!!

#14 Posted by boulderbilly on July 8, 2008 at 11:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Road, Since the first time Bush jr gave the finger to everyone in the Middle East except for Israel and the Saudie's in early 2001, I predicted the attacks on us and the trouble in the M/E.
Road, In March of 2001, because of Bush jr's and the congress's economic actions, I sold 95% of my domestic stocks in my IRA and 401k which more than doubled under the Clinton administration. Over the last 7 years I have predicted the collapse of every phase of our economy to the jeers and namecalling of people like You, Fish, Fein, Tag, Head and others.
The U.S economy IS now in reccession, The stock Market is lower in value than it was pre-Bush jr, the U.S dollar's value is down 40%, unemployment is almost 50% higher than in early 2001, av. household incomes are down, major banks, airlines, car manufactures, businesses are going bankrupt, millions of forclosures, the highest credit debt, and lowest saving rate in our countries history, our Nat. debt which was being paid down 10 years ago has now increased 65%-4 Trillion dollars in 7 years.
Feel free to dispute what I write, but don't look like an idiot by continuing to tell me I was/am wrong.

#15 Posted by bossman1 on July 9, 2008 at 5:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

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#16 Posted by bossman1 on July 9, 2008 at 6:48 a.m.

Nationalizing of industry ... redistribution of wealth .. sounds very familiar. It's called "Marxism."

#17 Posted by ke6tdy on July 9, 2008 at 7:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Joyce...they were FREE fireworks. Just be thankful that you could afford to gas to go watch them!

Dawn...I feel the same way about the junk mail.
My box is filled with it and I end up putting it into the recycle bin.

Gonefishin....I donated to the Local FOP one year and suddenly I was getting calls from all sorts of Police charities, saying that I donated before and blah blah blah. Some were from Georgia!!
If I want to donate any $ now, I drive to the establishment and hand them the $. Like the Golden Gate Fire Dept. on the Blvd. I tell them to go treat themselves to lunch or whatever.

#18 Posted by eaglebeak on July 9, 2008 at 7:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

H.H.Hermann...nationalizing the oil industry? How about people cutting down their dependancy on oil? What has become of wash lines, instead of elec. dryers...'spot cleaning' instead of daily,long, hot showers.( are we THAT dirty?) walking, instead of driving.. hand washing an auto instead of automatic car washes, less A/C use and more open windows...cisterns to catch rain water instead of using sprinklers.
I feel that to 'nationalize' you refer to Gov. intervention and I am not for more Gov. in my life!
They can not control their own budget.

#19 Posted by eaglebeak on July 9, 2008 at 8:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jeanette: Don't waste your time calling the Congressmen. One more time, the US sells it oil to the open market, mostly Asia. We make more money exporting than importing. That's how capitalism works.

H.H.: Great idea, but the US and CIA have spent the past 50 years busting up nationalized oil and banking in nearly every nation that they could infiltrate. Read up on South America and Milton Friedman.

And Andrew, please. Obama is following the Democratic party's positions. You are so afraid that another Democrat or heaven forbid a "liberal" return to office and finally give the working stiff some relief.

#20 Posted by 1nParadise on July 9, 2008 at 8:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Joppa,
The major difference between Obama and Bush's college days are that one was an intelligent President of the law review.

The others granddaddy bought the school a library, which his grandson walked by every day on his way to cheerleading practice.

Two different approaches to a degree.

LOL.

#21 Posted by boulderbilly on July 9, 2008 at 9:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

1in, you've bought the kool aid on the old "give the working stiff some relief." Now are you going to drink it?

#22 Posted by GoneFishin on July 9, 2008 at 9:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

pertaining to Arlyne's letter We have had verbal abuse in the past 3 years but this was the first time someone tried to physically attack. Next time the attacker will not just get a kick between his legs by me to loosen his grip on my flag but he will be facing jail time.
bossman Thanks for your support and your facts are undisputable.They don't pity you, they hate you.Keep up the good work on this site.
Rationalman I like to believe we have made a difference we get alot more beeps for peace then 3 years ago and a lot less verbal abuse.5years ago 80% of americans were for the war,now 70 % are against the war.Thats a substantional difference

#23 Posted by jfriccio38 on July 9, 2008 at 9:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

boss, you got deleted? Been a while for you.

So glad you predicted the attacks that were in planning during the end of the Clinton administration.

You know those foreign guys who only wanted to learn how to fly the planes, not land them or take off, it hardly seems suspicious anymore, does it?

And you sold all of your securities after Bush got in? Funny, I did that in spring of 2000, months before the election took place.

You see, it's not necessarily that you don't know what has happened, it's just that you blame the wrong causes.

Clinton got a lucky break with the internet boom. "The World Wide Web was created in 1989 by Sir Tim Berners-Lee, working at the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) in Geneva, Switzerland and released in 1992." Glad he was able to use technology created here in the good old US of A.

1992. What happened in the US that year?

quote reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wi...

#24 Posted by GoneFishin on July 9, 2008 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Presidential Politics 101:

Attack the opposition candidate regardless of who they are and try to put a spin on anything in their record or anything they have ever said to make them look bad, and then come to the overall conclusion that they would make a terrible president and scare people into believing that all sorts of tragic events will occur in this country if they are elected.

Try to do this in such a way that you appear to be objective and knowledgeable.

A good example of this is Mr.Joppa's letter. Give the man an A in Presidential Politics 101.

#25 Posted by reasonableguy on July 9, 2008 at 9:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

From todays NYT.

"Mr. Obama’s plan differs from Mr. McCain’s in several ways. In addition to requiring insurers to accept all applicants, he would require that parents obtain insurance for their children. To make premiums affordable, he would create a Medicare-like government plan that would be open to all and pump up to $65 billion a year into subsidies. The money would come from repealing President Bush’s income tax cuts for those earning more than $250,000 a year."

TIME FOR CHANGE!!!!!!!!!

#26 Posted by boulderbilly on July 9, 2008 at 10:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

From yesterday's Rasmussen Reports:

"Congressional Approval Falls to Single Digits for First Time Ever

The percentage of voters who give Congress good or excellent ratings has fallen to single digits for the first time in Rasmussen Reports tracking history. This month, just 9% say Congress is doing a good or excellent job. Most voters (52%) say Congress is doing a poor job, which ties the record high in that dubious category."

Pelosi and Harry Reid would kill for Bush's job approval rating.

#27 Posted by BobbyBacala on July 9, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Andrew, you forgot one key aspect of the voter. People don't vote with a reasonable part of the brain. Look at how many voted for Clinton because of his looks.

Obama has said he would revisit his pledge on Iraq to “have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months”.

Why? Because that pledge was the kind of BS that the sheep want to hear. Reality proves that pledge to be malarkey.

Of course, given the progress in Iraq, including their government's recent requests that we leave, that might be happening anyway (even though that huge embassy and the bases will still be there for some time no matter who is president).

But the idiots don't want to hear the truth. They want to hear the lies so they can feel good. It's just like the last election that brought us the Congress with 9% approval.

Obama is a lying politician with no experience except fooling people into thinking he is worth something.

#28 Posted by GoneFishin on July 9, 2008 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Arlyne Goodwin, the guy was probably drunk, but that doesn't excuse his behavior.

How about those freaks from Code Pink disrupting a Bush speech to new citizens?

There are freaks on both sides.

#29 Posted by GoneFishin on July 9, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Amen GoneFishin, amen. The lunatic fringe on both sides has disproportionate power.

America needs to flush the congressional toilet.

#30 Posted by boulderbilly on July 9, 2008 at 10:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Billy,

The FICA on the difference between $90,000 and $250,000 is $24,500 in additional expense. The increased tax caused by allowing the tax cuts to expire will add more "EXPENSE".

Small business owners provide 73% of the jobs and 82% of the new jobs. The small business owners that earn over $250,000 will cut their expenses. To do this they will cut some employee benefits or fire the least productive workers or most senior workers with the higher hourly pay. They will work longer hours themselves and lay off workers. They will hire tax people to use the system to their benefit.

All the new unemployed will now have a reason to hate the evil rich. They will play into the hands of the socialists and become a ward of the state.

Maybe you will end up with George Bernard Shaw's socialism.

""""""""""Socialism means equality of income or nothing... under socialism you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you like it or not. If it were discovered that you had not character enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner; but whilst you were permitted to live you would have to live well."""""""" This is the change that everyone wants, right Billy. What a great country that would be!!! Just think, a country full of people with no hope, but isn't that what Barack is promoting, hope?? Everyone has the same lunch bucket. The buckets are all "equal" and the food is the same.

In the mean time, the achievers will continue to achieve. Their children will not be molded to become obeying socialists in the government education system. They will go private schools, just like our politicians send their kids.

Want more CHANGE? Our country has been slowly changing for the last 80 years. When people that hate our country continue running the country, it will not be a pretty sight, in my opinion.

#31 Posted by ChiDem on July 9, 2008 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Is that the same Courtney Hansen I went to school with? I see her on T.V. every Sunday on Spike's Power Block. How about that, local girl makes it big as the hot looking host of network car show. You go girl!

#32 Posted by Tennpride on July 9, 2008 at 10:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

All politicians are liars with no experience except fooling people into thinking they are worth something.

-But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

#33 Posted by Solitary1 on July 9, 2008 at 11:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mr.Stuart - RIGHT ON !!!!!!
I refuse to take classes during the summer as they are unpaid. If the school system wants teachers to take classes then PAY them to attend just like any company out there pays their employees for training.
This is exactly what the school system wants...teachers who work for free and love it !

#34 Posted by jokesonme on July 9, 2008 at 11:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Obama's opposition to nuclear energy, in its entirety, is nothing more than a naked pander for Nevada's five electoral votes. For a politician ostensibly committed to environmentalism in general and curbing global warming in particular, omitting nuclear power from his energy programme - let alone doing so on no principle higher than grabbing votes - is irresponsible."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfr...

#35 Posted by GoneFishin on July 9, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Obama is blind to the energy reality"

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servle...

#36 Posted by GoneFishin on July 9, 2008 at 11:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Andrew Joppa's at it again, trying to find something to bang Obama with. It was interesting that some say since Obama went to Harvard, that's too left wing, so they can't vote for him. It appears that Bush went to Harvard also and Yale.

The difference between Obama and Bush is that Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude and Bush got C's and help from daddy to make it through. The intelligence gap in performance is very, very noticible and relevant.

Barack hasn't changed his positions; it's just that people don't listen to what he says. Also his position on guns was one he held before the Supreme Court Ruling.

My greatest impetus to vote for Obama is that McCain is a war guy. He reverts to war at the drop of a pin, and I believe would invade Iran which is an absolute NO! We cannot have war with Iran.

And because we haven't talked to Iran but merely saber rattled, we and Israel, Iran has to show it will protect itself. And people like McCain have created this fever that would lead us to another war that never should be.

McCain is an idiot, plain and simple. He doesn't have the mental acumen needed to run this country domestically or in foreign policy. He is another poor performer in school, and that ought to tell us something.

#37 Posted by truthmatters on July 9, 2008 at 11:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Obama: Make Sure Your Child Can Speak Spanish"

Of course, Obama speaks passable Bahasa, the language spoken in Indonesia and Malaysia.

http://madnessletters.com/2008/07/09/...

#38 Posted by GoneFishin on July 9, 2008 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Obama is not against nuclear energy. Again, Gonefishin, you are not listening. It is, however, lower on his list of alternative energies. I don't agree with that, but maybe once elected, he will elevate its status for alternative energy.

I'm supporting Obama, not because I agree with him on everything, but that there are some extremely vital things he is much, much better than McCain. He's ahead of McCain in foreign policy, way ahead.

I do not agree with the Democrats not voting to drill for Oil in this country. That makes no sense at all. I could better understand it if they were supporting the oil industry to keep the prices high, but I know that's not the case. Our not drilling for oil here only hurts us.

I can understand that we should not abandon our alternative energy sources, and perhaps drilling here might dim people's ambition to do that. So, I feel we should do both; drill for oil here and proceed with all our other possible energy sources.

#39 Posted by truthmatters on July 9, 2008 at 12:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I still want to know what we are going to do with the Nuclear Waste. Put it in to the ground. That doesnt sound to smart.

But I keep reading to try and be able to find something that can help me get behind the move for more Nuclear Energy Power Plants.

#40 Posted by chincieone on July 9, 2008 at 12:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Obama "said he supports increased research into nuclear waste storage and recycling, but could not endorse construction of new reactors until those concerns are resolved."

'Obama also criticized the Arizona senator's plan to open up oil drilling in the U.S.

'"It makes about as much sense as his proposal to build 45 new nuclear reactors without a plan to store waste someplace other than right here at Yucca Mountain," Obama said. "These are not serious energy policies."

'McCain spokesman Rick Gorka accused Obama of not taking any firm positions on energy issues.

'"Sen. McCain is putting forward a plan of action, whereas Sen. Obama has been the Dr. No of energy, refusing to take a stand to help out Nevadans," Gorka said.'

http://www.maderatribune.com/news/new...

#41 Posted by GoneFishin on July 9, 2008 at 12:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

truth, exactly how is Obama ahead of McCain in foreign policy?

#42 Posted by GoneFishin on July 9, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Gonefishin, I think I've said it about a thousand times now. Obama would engage diplomacy with our opponents. Often wars are waged on pure misunderstandings, both sides thinking the other is going to attack them.

McCain is way too trigger happy for me. We can't risk his rashness. I fear he's till fighting the Viet Nam war and has the mentality of having to win when there's nothing to win. Those countries aren't ours.

We have a totally muddled foreign policy, too schizophrenic to promise us any kind of safety. We have a maze of things that impel us to keep occupying or invading the Middle East. The terrorists are down on the list, but high on the list is our idea that we must direct every country's affairs and have our fingers in every pot all over the place. That to me is the worst foreign policy imaginable and one that will only take us down, like every empire that gets too greedy and over bearing.

Other countries hate it, and I don't blame them. Also, we have angered Russia with putting our Missile Defense Systems all along their border. I imagine we would love that if Russia did the same to us.

We just can't stop making enemies whereever we go, and I believe Obama would change that. I believe he would get along with other countries much better than Bush who get's along with practically no one.

It's a disgrace to us that the world names us as the biggest threat to world peace and that our approval rating even with our allies is about 9%.

Does that answer your question, GoneFishin? If not, then there's no more I can do.

#43 Posted by truthmatters on July 9, 2008 at 1:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Chincieone.....re your post #42 there is ample evidence on the internet regarding Nuclear energy and Nuclear reactors
just google "nuclear energy pros and cons

it will provide you with all the information you need

#44 Posted by Canuck on July 9, 2008 at 1:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Canuck
I have been doing that and they tell me that the least amount of waste comes from neclear fusion. But there still is radio active waste.

And they want to put it in the ground in Yucca Navada. I guess I am looking for no radio active waste. Maybe there is no way they can get rid of it completly.

I know that there are a lot of plants already out there. But it still doesnt make good sence to me.

#45 Posted by chincieone on July 9, 2008 at 2:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

truth, Obama is a weakling. As I said before, he'll do fine against the Russians. Wimp and run.

And if you think he'll pull out of Iraq, it'll only be because the situation has improved.

Hope for change back on your dollar whilst continuing the spineless liberal ways.

#46 Posted by GoneFishin on July 9, 2008 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope that doesnt bite us in the butt like alot else has.

#47 Posted by chincieone on July 9, 2008 at 2:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Most of you have read this three or four times. It must have been published in many magazines and newpapers. In case you haven't:

HELLO MEDIA, you are killing us.

Okay, header space demands that I paraphrase the words of fed up Blackhawk helicopter pilot, Chief Warrant Officer Jim Funk who has written the following to the press:

“Hello media, do you know you indirectly kill American soldiers every day? You inspire and report the enemy’s objective every day. You are the enemy’s greatest weapon. The enemy cannot beat us on the battlefield so all he does is try to wreak enough havoc and have you report it every day. With you and the enemy using each other, you continually break the will of the American public and American government.

“We go out daily and bust and kill the enemy, uncover and destroy huge weapons caches and continue to establish infrastructure. So daily we put a whoopin on the enemy, but all the enemy has to do is turn on the TV and get re-inspired. He gets to see his daily roadside bomb, truck bomb, suicide bomber or mortar attack. He doesn’t see any accomplishments of the U.S. military (FOX, you’re not exempt, you s uck also).

“Let’s give you an example. A couple of days ago we conducted an air assault. We lifted troops into an area for an operation. The operation went well and our ground troops killed (insurgents) and took several prisoners, freed a few hostages and uncovered a weapons cache containing munitions and chemicals that were going to be used in improvised bombs.

“The next morning I woke up and turned on AFN (Armed Forces Network) and watched the nightly news (NBC). Nothing, none of that reported. But the daily car bomb report was reported, and the file footage was not even from the event. There was a car bomb in the Sadr City area and your news report showed old car bomb footage from another part of town from some other time.

“So we really set the enemy back that night but all the enemy had to do was turn on the news and be reassured that the enemy’s agenda (objective) was still going to be fed to the American public.

“We, the soldiers, keep breaking the back of the enemy. You, the media, keep rejuvenating the enemy.""""""""

"""""""Yes, but don’t you understand, CWO Funk, that it must be done, though. You must be defeated so that George W. Bush may be disgraced. If you hang in until a Democrat gets into the White House, again, though, we’ll start reporting your side and championing your courage, your selflessness, heroism and nobility. Love ya! Mean it!

#48 Posted by ChiDem on July 9, 2008 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Gosh, I just re-read my comment #39 and couldn't believe my eyes. I wrote that Obama graduated from Harvard Magna "Sperm" Laude. I couldn't believe it. Where the heck did that come from? Its's not even close to Magna "Cum" Laude. It must have been a little gremlin got a hold of my blog and messed with it. Anyway, I surely know better. What an embarrassment.

I read that the Fed is tightening the regulations for mortgage lending. Good Idea. I think they had been loosened, and look at the lending practices we got. There are just too many people out there that don't understand finances well enough not to be talked into something very risky.

Anyway, it's a good change, and hopefully, this subprime situation won't happen again.

#49 Posted by truthmatters on July 9, 2008 at 4:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW nuclear fusion (Hydrogen) should emit no radio active fall out. It's quite different than fission.

#50 Posted by truthmatters on July 9, 2008 at 4:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

perseauck,

Please don’t demean Barack for being a community organizer. There is big money in that line of work. He worked with ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, one of the nation's largest community organizations. They are noted for their excellent work in voter fraud. In fact, one of the best in the country, possibly thanks to Barack. And they have a housing unit. That is where he makes the real money. Billions in federal state and local funds. A license to steal. Once you are an elected official, your power really grows.

And the Tides Foundation is a big donor to Acorn. What better socialist/communist connection do you need.

And the law firm he worked for was into Civil Rights Law. Very very lucrative work. And when you are on the boards of non-profits, you can direct big money to your socialist friends and law firm member and they will kick back to you. Grants start at one million.

Of course, it was easy in Chicago, but he still has more than enough experience you need to be a politician. He may be a little short on leadership skills, but hey, his friends that he plays basketball with are not as crooked as his other friends. So he can't be that bad.

Cut him some slack.

#51 Posted by ChiDem on July 9, 2008 at 5:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

truthmatters I thought they were still working to achieving that process.

#52 Posted by chincieone on July 9, 2008 at 5:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Another one of Barack's & Michelle's dinner companions. Have they denied they know Peter yet? This guy is a real looser, even on university scales.

http://english.sxu.edu/sites/kirstein...

Hom many "friends" are no longer friends since he started his run for the presidency. Has it hit twenty yet??? or is it more.

#53 Posted by ChiDem on July 9, 2008 at 5:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There have been some rumors floating around in the last few hours that some of the GITMO residents have been moved to the United States for advanced torture & questioning..

The new system does not use the drowning simulation that waterboarding causes but simulates a terror producing simulation of falling from a twenty story building. Anyway, they are also put in machines that produces crushing forces on their bodies of almost 4 times their body weight. They are subjected to induced nausea, terror, etc. .Witnesses claim to hear terrible fear filled screams of the detainees.

A leak from the CIA confirmed that the Bush administration indeed had taken some of the detainees to Bush Gardens Willamsburg to be placed on a new coaster named Griffon.

Griffon carries riders up 205 feet, then hurtles them 90 degrees straight down at 70 mph. And that’s just the beginning. It is a floorless dive coaster, has a 90 degree drop from 205 feet high, and a 130 foot second drive, two Immelmann loops, and you hit 71 mph, pull 4 Gs, and the ride lasts 3 min.

#54 Posted by ChiDem on July 9, 2008 at 5:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sounds like the stock market under Bush ChiDem.

Too bad his ride ain't over with in three minutes.

#55 Posted by boulderbilly on July 9, 2008 at 6:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Billy

Agree with you. Miraculous ride. Can't believe it held so well with all the pressure on it. Can you believe $5 diesel and the market is still hanging on. Strange that it is holding so well while other economies are not. Wonder why.

Street talk is that Obama will win and market is reacting to his potential presidency. But thats just talk I suppose. How could presidential policies effect the economy?

Many of the evil $250k people are pulling in their horns in anticipation of a Obama tax administration. Sadly, that will drive up unemployment.

Others are saying the unemployment figures were slanted by the 850,000 grads entering the market. Wouldn't an honest & intelligent media report that?

#56 Posted by ChiDem on July 9, 2008 at 6:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kinda su.ks for those 850k grads joining last years 850k grads in the unemployment line. Hey, they Army's lookin' for a few good men.

Put down your books and pick up a gun,

We're gonna have a whole lot of fun.

#57 Posted by boulderbilly on July 9, 2008 at 7:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I found out that I cannot write the honors that Barack graduated with from Harvard. This blog keeps injecting the word sperm where I write "with" C U M. I don't know why it keeps changing what I write. I don't know who's doing it and I don't know why.

It certainly doesn't correct typing errors, so why they keep put the word "sperm" into my blog I don't know. Anyway, I'm glad it wasn't I who made the mistake. I thought I was really in trouble doing something like that.

So With High Honors is what Barack graduated with from Harvard.

#58 Posted by truthmatters on July 9, 2008 at 7:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If you knew how sickening it is to listen to this daily barrage of lies about Obama, I suppose you Right Wingers would be even happier because you are a bunch of bitter people. I don't even listen anymore to the fabrications and misinterpretation you keep blurting about Obama. I knew this campaign was going to be dirty, but you Right Wingers, I underestimated how really dirty you can get.

In fact there are so many lies out there about Obama by the Right which has nothing to offer but fabrications and twisting of anything and everything concerning Obama, there's even a Web Site listing those lies. It is WWW.Snopes.com.

No one dares say anything about McCain because he was a war hero, you know. Or maybe you didn't hear. He was a prisoner of War and fought in Viet Nam. I know it's been kept pretty secret so you may not have known. Anyway, it would be disrespectful to say anything malicious to him like is said about Obama because, you see, McCain has this cloak that protects him.

I guess I've kind of disregarded that cloak, though, to say a few things that are so vital to this country's welfare. I believe our country is a bit more important than McCain, and we can't risk his erratic, rash leadership.

#59 Posted by truthmatters on July 9, 2008 at 8:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

truthmatters......FYI...the word C U M is a slang or street word for sperm so I gather the webmaster pre-programs a substitute word for that when you used it without the spaces

#60 Posted by Canuck on July 9, 2008 at 8:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you, Canuck. The mystery is solved. Now I wonder how someone writes the honors of which I spoke.

#61 Posted by truthmatters on July 9, 2008 at 8:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Canuck and truthmatters:
It is pretty funny, this new scanning for "dirty words".
I accidentally left out the "i" in "doing" and it said "naughty word" under the preview.

Hope you all are well.

#62 Posted by sheenabella on July 9, 2008 at 8:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sheenabella...good to hear from you...did you get your allergies sorted out.....

#63 Posted by Canuck on July 9, 2008 at 8:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks Canuck.
After 60 patches, needle sticks, and bubbles, I am only allergic to 52,(!) including cats (after all), dogs, ragweed, molds, pollen, and everything else Florida. I start allergy shots in 2 weeks. Fun!
In the meantime it's nasal spray, Asmanex, and Zyrtec. I also purchased two big air purifiers, which really seem to help.

I hope that you are well and your wife continues to improve. Tell her that I send my prayers.

Summer books to definitely read:
The Last Lecture
The Kite Runner

HBO series to see over again:
Six Feet Under.

Sorry I have no Obama- McCain views to add. It's all a bit confusing to me.
I still say Robin Williams for President!
Excellent books

#64 Posted by sheenabella on July 9, 2008 at 9:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sheenabella...so glad to hear you finally got it settled..it must be a load off your mind....the allergy shots will help as both my boys went through it allbeit at an early age...and they grew out of their allergies

my wife continues to do well...she has one more chemo to go and then we do not know what she will face...the blood tests do look good....I will pass on your thoughts.....thank you

another good book to read...by the same author as the Kite Runner is...... A thousand Splendid Suns

#65 Posted by Canuck on July 9, 2008 at 9:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey, I'm right in the middle of that book!

I've been able to catch up on a lot of reading, but I miss the students. It's going to be hard to start getting up at 5:15 again!

Have a great rest-of-the-week. :)

#66 Posted by sheenabella on July 9, 2008 at 10:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Robin Williams for KING!!!!!!

Steven Wright for President!

#67 Posted by boulderbilly on July 9, 2008 at 11:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)



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