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Letter of the Day: ‘Who thought of this?’
Editor, Daily News:
I am awed by the many happenings I sometimes take for granted.
While doing my morning walk, I saw the garbage removal truck arrive as it always does between 7 and 7:15 a.m.
I watched as the driver carefully positioned his vehicle to lift and dump the garbage bin.
Who thought of this?
When I am ready to take a road trip (if I have gas), I can easily find my way with the American Automobile Association travel book and our wonderful highway system.
Who thought of this?
When my husband had to have radiation for cancer, our oncologist arranged for the CybeKnife robot at NCH Healthcare System to administer it. This required only five treatments, whereas regular radiation would have required 30 treatments.
What wonderful person thought of this?
True, there are many bad things in this world, but fortunately there are many good things also.
Betty McKenzie, Naples
Letter: Me thinks ‘tis (e)nuff
Editor, Daily News:
I am frequently amused by the grammar used by readers who submit letters to the editor.
In the July 11 collection of letters, one gentleman says: “ ’Tis far past time to dump the incumbents,” while another writer exclaims: “Me thinks God will smile.”
Does anyone really talk like that? Do they sit around their homes saying, “Mable, me thinks ’tis time for dinner”? Maybe they have dreams of being Shakespeare.
And then there are the letter writers who end their letters by saying “Nuff said.” Is English their second language?
Stephen Stidinger, Naples
Letter: And now look
Editor, Daily News:
To those of you who plan to vote Democratic at the next election and who have been blaming the White House for the dreadful rise in gas prices, I would like to remind you of a promise current Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi made on April 24, 2006, prior to the November 2006 election:
“Democrats have a common-sense plan to help bring down skyrocketing gas prices by cracking down on price gouging, rolling back the billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies, tax breaks and royalty relief given to big oil and gas companies, and increasing production of alternative fuels.”
The letter cited policies put in place during the GOP control of Congress that the speaker claimed had raised prices on American consumers to benefit oil companies.
Pelosi lied to the voting public. She and fellow Democrats in charge of Congress not only have failed in your promise since you took control in November 2006, but we have seen the biggest rise in gas prices in our history.
Michael R. Adler, Naples
Letter: Act now
Editor, Daily News:
The recent news is truly unbelievable.
The Iraqis don’t want a foreign military presence one day longer than necessary. The United Nations “mandate” (what a joke) expires in December. Talks have ended regarding an extended military presence and will become the responsibility of the next administration.
C’mon, George Bush, John McCain, Barack Obama. This is the opportunity every parent, wife, husband, child and friend has been waiting for — the chance to get our troops home, now! You’ve put them in enough harm’s way for five years.
If we don’t act now, everyone in Washington should lose their jobs, pensions, free medical care, and our political system should be totally revised where a presidential candidate needs at least 50 percent of the vote of those registered.
Tom Haddad, Naples
Letter: Time to wake up
Editor, Daily News:
Re: Letter about cloning a president.
Ah, yes. The good old 1980s.
It’s easy to forget the foreign policy disasters in Lebanon, Nicaragua and Granada.
Unfortunately it’s not so easy to forget the effects of voodoo economics. That’s because we’re still paying for it. We began the 1980s with a national debt of around $70 billion. Today we’re looking at a debt of around $9.5 trillion. We pay almost as much in interest on that debt as we do on defense.
The policy of cutting taxes and signing every spending bill that crosses the president’s desk has been a fiscal disaster.
President Bush continued those policies for his first six years, just like his daddy.
The massive Social Security surplus was depleted in the 1980s, so the government wouldn’t have to borrow as much from China. America began the 1980s as the biggest creditor nation. By 1990 we became the largest debtor nation.
Whoever thought up that economic policy did more damage to this country than any adversary we’ve ever faced. I wonder if that was the same person who decided to deregulate the savings and loan industry?
This election is all about the economy. What we need is sound fiscal responsibility. Some sane foreign policy would also be nice.
Of course, if the Iranians shoot at our planes in the middle of the night, I hope we have a president who we will want to wake up.
William R. Foster, Naples
Letter: Fight for them, too
Editor, Daily News:
Congress needs to know we have been listening to the news daily, and each day we become more disappointed with our government.
A recent news broadcast introduced a military wife and children who are losing their home to foreclosure. She has cancer and is struggling daily to survive. Her husband is fighting in Iraq because our government decided to send our troops.
I find it an insult to our military that we support other countries financially to rebuild and when there is a natural disaster. But we can’t help support the families of our military.
Something needs to be done for these families, and a thank you isn’t enough.
Judith A. Sicard, Margaret Raley, Linda Rice, Naples
Letter: The drill
Editor, Daily News:
What is with all this drill, drill, drill stuff?
The “drill-more” syndrome is not dissimilar to a dysfunctional baseball game — the batter can see no further than first base.
So, let’s say we do drill. What is the end result?
We already have a pitiful environmental record. So we produce more fossil burning fuels to expedite global warming and will — in a paltry fashion — reflect next to nothing in the cost of gasoline.
What we hear from the “drillites” should concern us greatly as to the inordinate number of myopic Chicken Littles in our current day society.
Ed Frick, Naples
Letter: On the road (to ruin) again
Editor, Daily News:
We were told by Democrats they would end the Republican “culture of corruption” if they took control of Congress.
Look what we got — wowing us with Democratic virtue the last three years, along with trite harangue on Republican obstructionism resulting in the lowest congressional approval rating in our history (this month, just 9 percent say Democratically controlled Congress is doing a good or excellent job).
The Democratic Party has led America down a path of economic disaster. Fannie Mae, the Democrats’ honey pot, now holds $5.3 trillion of mortgage debt on homes with far less value. IndyMac, the largest regulated thrift and second largest U.S. financial institution, just failed, thanks in part to the leadership of Democrat Charles Schumer, chairman of the Joint Economic Committee.
Where was Schumer fighting the countrywide sub-prime sweetheart deals to fellow Democrats and the “lax lending standards and third-party deals” he mentioned in defending himself from the IndyMac failure?
It has been estimated that more than 150 banks could fail next year. America has been economically devastated because of Democrats supplying mortgages to people who could not afford them.
And now, they are peddling a housing bailout, with Barack Obama being the head cheerleader, at taxpayers’ expense. All this comes after they peddled “regulated” sweetheart mortgages for themselves and anyone else for so many years.
Can America afford this type of Democratic leadership in the Oval Office?
Barry Willoughby, Bonita Springs
Letter: In — and out
Editor, Daily News:
I don’t think that our president or anybody in Congress is in the poor or middle-class category. So they don’t feel the pinch like the people do.
They keep passing more money for the war, then they want to cut our Medicare.
If polls show 80 percent of the people are against the war, why aren’t they listening to us?
The reason is, our voices don’t count.
We put them in. Let’s take them out at election time.
Anthony Cambria, Naples
Letter: Good company
Editor, Daily News:
I find it curious that so many people are afraid of change, preferring instead the status quo.
New ideas and new policy directions would never happen if people always found comfort in what they are, not what they might be.
Consider this: When Pope John Paul XXIII was elected, one of the first things he said was, “Let’s throw open the windows of the Vatican, and let some light in.” What a breath of fresh air he represented. What a great pope he was.
Now we have Barack Obama, bringing new ideas, new energy, gathering advisers around him who are motivated to shake up the old establishment, asking Americans to help him regain the respect of other nations to re-establish our damaged image around the globe.
The old method of conducting business in Washington is not working as Democracy was designed to do. People come first. America is defined by and defended by its citizens.
“Change” is not just a campaign slogan, but it goes to the heart of making America admired once again.
Bob Elwell, Naples
Letter: Dragging us down
Editor, Daily News:
Have you lost your minds?
Naples is world famous for its beaches, restaurants, real estate and weather. We live off of tourism and real estate — our two biggest economic forces.
So why do you think it’s appropriate to denigrate our town by showcasing a homeless man in the woods of East Naples?
If you want a “story,” why not send a rescue team to help him get employed and bring him back into the fold? Now that would be of interest to your readers: Naples neighbors helping neighbors — even the homeless.
Wake up and realize your readership is down because of your dreadful content.
Bo Sorrentino, Naples, Realtor
Letter: Better investments
Editor, Daily News:
Hideaway Beach again!
It gets $1.6 million in “bed taxes” for beach renourishment.
Has it ever occurred to the Collier County Commission that water seeks its own course? No matter how many T-groins (erosion controls) they install at Hideaway Beach, or any other beach, the forces of Mother Nature will not be restrained.
Why can’t the commissioners allocate part of the “bed tax” dollars for scholarships and continuing education in the hospitality field? They are the industry that generates most of the tax. It would allow the students to seek a desirable career path where opportunities abound.
Let those folks at the private Hideaway Beach enclave pay their own way.
Frank J. Setera, Naples







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Barry, aka chi, Last month your LTE said the Demo's controlled congress for the last two years, this LTE it's the last three years, don't you ever tell the truth?
The democrats granted the bad loans in the last seven years? You get worse on every LTE, THANK YOU.
#1 Posted by bossman1 on July 17, 2008 at 7:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
We need lots and lots of changes in this country. I hope the next president will do something to make progressive changes. The infrastructure is falling apart, and people are going without and heading for poverty. The country is headed for another depression. We need another president similar to Franklin Roosevelt, although he got us into a war. I hope the next president gets us out of war. We can't afford to be in Iraq and Afghanistan.
#2 Posted by rationalman on July 17, 2008 at 8:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Is it really 2 weeks since B.W's last bullcr*p?
Are Republicans so stupid that they would vote to go down the same road to get to a different destination? The place we have arrived at after almost 8 years is not where we want to be.
Bo S.
Not sure of the story you refer to.The religious nut that criticizes the churches for not opening their doors to the homeless at night has a valid point. Churches were always a place of refuge for the indigent.
Betty.
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the guy who was tasked to cut the jobs of the 2 guys that used to ride on the back of the garbage truck and who picked up the stuff that did not fit in the bin.
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A president who thought it would be a good idea to be able to move military supplies swiftly and at the same time stimulate the economy.
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don't know but would put my last $ on government supported basic research being used by the private sector to turn a profit.
Hope your husband is OK.
#3 Posted by jimboaw on July 17, 2008 at 8:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ObamaSCAM
ObamaSNOB
ObamaStapo
Getting better by the moment.
#4 Posted by GoneFishin on July 17, 2008 at 9 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Eddie, we do not have a benevolent king who takes from the harvest to give to the indigent. Get up, get out and do something other than think you are correct.
#5 Posted by GoneFishin on July 17, 2008 at 9:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Pelosi said Bush was ... what did she say that she meant about herself?
Here comes the ultimate in politics.
#6 Posted by GoneFishin on July 17, 2008 at 9:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The Obamascam, Obamasnob, Obamastopo goes to Europe to campaign there, so Americans should see how wonderful he is.
The US shouldn't care what Europeans think because they let WWI and WWI and Bosnia happen without a flinch.
Until we had to bail their lame butts out.
#7 Posted by GoneFishin on July 17, 2008 at 9:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
GoneFishin, it must be a blessing to be so superior as to be able to group all Europeans as "lame butts" compared to yourself. Keep in mind now this includes Nobel Prize winners, the engineers at Lamborghini and Airbus, the leading scientists in the world combating infectious disease in France, the list goes on and on.
They are all "lame butts" in GoneFishin's mind. Yet his greatest accomplishment today was landin' an 8" catfish.
HEEEE HAAWWWWWW!!!!!
And people wonder why our prestige has sunk to the level of the Russians in the 80's?
LMAO.
#8 Posted by boulderbilly on July 17, 2008 at 10:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Kepp somethin' else in mind GF. A portion of those "lame butt" Europeans you refer to are British kids that went to Fallujah at our behest and will never go home.
#9 Posted by boulderbilly on July 17, 2008 at 11:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Right around three years since the "culture of corruption" propaganda was uttered by the Democrats bossman. Let us rejoice you failed math as a kid but made it as a big union boss in spite of yourself.
#10 Posted by Rejoice on July 17, 2008 at 11:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
William, Cutting taxes can be a good thing, it may put more money back into circulation IF the taxes are reduced/raised and balanced to the correct people.
Did you know our corperate tax RATE [35%] is the second highest in industrialized countries? But we collect very little of it.
Two thirds of the companies operating in the U.S pay NO TAXES?
90% of corperations over $250 million in assets pay under 5%?
The U.S tax gap in the U.S is over $300 billion a year?
Halliberton under CEO Cheney set-up 35 offshore tax accounts to evade paying it's fair share in taxes?
Harken Energy, Bush jr's favorite company started doing the same thing when Bush jr became President?
So Bill, when you hear these dolts complain about the high corparate tax RATE, the how the Democrats want to OVER tax the wealthy in our country, remember they are dolts and don't know any better.
#11 Posted by bossman1 on July 18, 2008 at 5:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
John McCain wants to do away with Social Security or privatize it, 'have the wall street boys invest it in the stock market'. How much would your S.S have lost in the last eight years?
McCain makes over $400,000 a year, his wife over $6 million a year, but McCain still excepts a monthly S.S check every month about $1900, $23,000 a year, and has been getting a full S.S benefit since he turned since 65 years old.
But let's be fair, he earned it, didn't he?
#12 Posted by bossman1 on July 18, 2008 at 5:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
RE, Is that what Chi's LTE said? No it wasn't.
Your comment,"The culture of corruption" by the Repub's is being proven true, the Demo's were correct.
Like the rest of your post's of lie's, I was never a 'big union boss', but a hard working union steelworker who excepted a management job [non-union] offered by my company [USS] and worked at it for 17 years. Is that ok with you?
#13 Posted by bossman1 on July 18, 2008 at 5:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
A burning question: Will Boss ever run out of apostrophes?
Oh, I think you probably accepted the job.
Carry on.
#14 Posted by Beads on July 18, 2008 at 6:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
WOW!
Stephen Stiginer- If this is all you have to complain about, you need more aggravation in your life.
Ed Frick- What a short sight view on your part. What about the generations behind us? It's your kind of thinking that has us in this mess.
Anthony Cambria-I couldn't agree more. The problem is, poor people can't give campaign contributions.
Bo Sorrentino Realtor-- Where do I even start? Your total lack of compassion for your fellow man? Your blindness to the economy, here? What's next, get rid of anybody that doesn't meet YOUR standards?
Let's all bow at the feet of the great one Bo!
#15 Posted by Optipess on July 18, 2008 at 7:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Bob Elwell what an insult to mention Obama in the same sentence as our former Pope. That my friend is a great insult to a wonderful man - the POPE!!!
#16 Posted by ladyumpswfl on July 18, 2008 at 7:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You have it right, Michael Adler, about Pelosi. I'm astonished that her colleagues haven't caught on yet that she is (along with her alter ego, Harry Reid) an incomparable idiot, motivated only by her own image in a mirror. But then, maybe being an idiot is a prerequisite for being a congressperson.
#17 Posted by ke6tdy on July 18, 2008 at 7:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
bossman1,
Corporations moving overseas, jobs moving overseas?? Chrysler & Damler was originally Damler-Chrysler based in Stuttgart.
International corporations taking over steel, automotive and other industries???
Must be the water here, not the taxes that makes our corporations uncompetetive internationally.
Could high corporate tax be causing this??? That plus other "government" regulations.
Wait until the environmental warming "tax" hits the fan. As Ross Perot said, a loud sucking sound.
Two neighborhood business owners planning overseas operations (mexico), specialized packaging & electrical components. Banking will be conducted out of Caribbean.
Taxing high end yacht sales (tax the wealthy) worked out great, didn't it. Shut down an entire industry and opened up international mfg. Dolts??
Remember, taxing the wealthy gains millions of votes, looses hundreds of votes, looses thousands of jobs.
Speaking of dolts ................
#18 Posted by ChiDem on July 18, 2008 at 7:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Bo....although it would be great if Naples was ONLY a place of beachs, restaurants, real estate and weather, unfortunately, it is also home to homeless and poverty. To advertise to the readers country wide that we are perfect, would be a lie.
NDN ran a story of the theft of soda can tabs (bad) but a follow up story of the community coming together and more than doubling the amount of the theft.( good)
Stories of the community donating for the fire victims of G.G. Estates. (good)
Trying to ignore REAL life...Bad.
#19 Posted by eaglebeak on July 18, 2008 at 8:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
That does it! I no got none more nuff to be never said not more!
#20 Posted by chickendog on July 18, 2008 at 8:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Just how come Obama thinks it's OK to go to the Brandenburg Gate?
It is the same mentality that thought it was OK to put a presidential seal on his podiums.
He thinks he's great, but he's really just a snob.
And those lame butts in Italy believe a woman wearing jeans can be raped.
And where has France been during the Darfur calamity?
Socializing?
#21 Posted by GoneFishin on July 18, 2008 at 8:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Bob Elwell:
What are Backtrack Obama's "new" ideas exactly?
Windfall profits taxes on oil companies? Opposition to drilling for oil? Increased income and capital gains taxes on individuals and business? Subsidies for rich farmers?
The more things "change", the more they stay the same.
#22 Posted by roadhouse on July 18, 2008 at 8:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Beads - subtle but poignant commentary. Well done!
#23 Posted by naplesregular on July 18, 2008 at 8:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Those of you who condemn Congress but then blame only one of the parties for its actions, seem to forget that Congress is made up of both parties and that only one party has a slim majority over the other (not enough to overcome a presidential veto).
Mr. Willoughby blames the mortgage crisis on the Democrats. To him I say, your letter would be more persuasive if you could show either one of the following facts:
Republicans introduced legislation to regulate mortgage lenders specifically in the area of setting higher requirements for obtaining loans and it was shot down by Democrats. Or
Democrats introduced legislation to deregulate mortgage lenders by easing requirements to obtain loans and it was approved and became law.
You may be right Mr. Willoughby but to be persuasive you need to substantiate your claim with facts.
#24 Posted by reasonableguy on July 18, 2008 at 9:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)
GoneFishin,
You must crack your sides every time you hit the mouse to post a comment, because I have to admit your comments are pretty amusing. I posted a comment (#66) on yesterday's #49 by you if you want to go back and read it.
#25 Posted by perditionman on July 18, 2008 at 9:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Gonefishin.......according to your posts the US fought and won all those wars single handed....I am afraid you have been watching too many John Wayne hollywood movies about both wars...
the English, free French, the Canadians, the Aussies all paid prominent roles in all the wars you mentioned...and in the 2nd world war they were all fighting the Nazis a few years before the US got into the war
just a little history lesson
as for Dafur all free countries should feel shame for ignoring the ethnic cleansing being perpetrated in that country
as for Afganistan several countries beside the US are fighting the Taliban including Canadians who have the brunt of the fighting in the south and suffer more casulties per capita than any other force
as for Iraq...that is another story
#26 Posted by Canuck on July 18, 2008 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
For those who like to criticize the democratic congress (and Barry, it's one-and-one-half years, not 2 or 3), consider that your boy "W" issued his first and only veto during his first six years in July '06. During this congress he has issued eleven more. I haven't tallied up the signing statements. Heck, if congress passed all those bills and he signed them, we wouldn't have enough money to fight ill conceived wars in places like Iraq - even after borrowing all that money from China.
#27 Posted by perditionman on July 18, 2008 at 9:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Reasonable guy:
Interesting that all this legislation to go after Fannie and Freddie came from the Republican side, three years ago. Wonder what happened to it?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/...
#28 Posted by roadhouse on July 18, 2008 at 9:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Wow, what a great forum! After Willoughby, Adler and "gone-fishin", I don't have to listen to Rush Limbaugh or watch Bill O'Reilly on "FOX Noise. Now that is saving "energy!" That "nasty" Democratic congress did teach the GOP White House something = how to use a veto. George hadn't discovered that "power" until 2006. Is there any more kool-aid left?
#29 Posted by Elephanttamer on July 18, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You're right elephanttamer! Now, I have to say to GoneFishin, ChiDem, DinNaples, et al, if you have so much faith in your Commander-in-Chief and his wisdom, do as he said the other day (if you're not at home, you ought not have your air conditioner running) and turn off your A/C when you leave the house! Save energy! LOL! I wonder how he came up with that one.
#30 Posted by perditionman on July 18, 2008 at 10:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
#13 Posted by bossman1....."I was never a 'big union boss', but a hard working union steelworker who excepted a management job [non-union] offered by my company [USS] and worked at it for 17 years."
How exceptional you must have been to "except" a management job Mr. bossman.
I'm sure USS rejoices to this day that decision. Here you were, leaving a hard working union job behind, in order to join the ranks of greed, pollution, conniving and other specific attributes that socialists assign to the culture of American corporate management.
Obama deserves your vote Mr. bossman and will gladly "except" it. Do your part again and make the hard decision for Obama/change.
Rejoice in your vote knowing Obama will lead America down the same path as USS. Tell me, are there any more hard working union steel men "excepting" management positions in Pittsburgh?
#31 Posted by Rejoice on July 18, 2008 at 10:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Who says we have faith in Bush? We just don't fall for the Obamascam.
#32 Posted by GoneFishin on July 18, 2008 at 10:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
#30 Posted by perditionman......"do as he said the other day (if you're not at home, you ought not have your air conditioner running) and turn off your A/C when you leave the house! Save energy! LOL! I wonder how he came up with that one."
He must have been listening to a $300,000 Al Gore speech and rejoicing after Gore's latest utility bill showed his electrical consumption continues to rise, even after making all those expensive green changes to his mansion.
You've got to turn off the air conditioner when you leave to give your next $300,000 speech Mr. Nobel Prize winner.
#33 Posted by Rejoice on July 18, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Previous POst >>>>>>Now, I have to say to GoneFishin, ChiDem, DinNaples, et al, if you have so much faith in your Commander-in-Chief and his wisdom, do as he said the other day (if you're not at home, you ought not have your air conditioner running) and turn off your A/C when you leave the house! Save energy! LOL! I wonder how he came up with that one.
#30 Posted by perditionman on July 18, 2008 at 10:11 a.m.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Now I have to say to perditionman that liberal La La Land California proposed a LAW that says you MUST turn down your electrical appliances or face fines as well as the "state" controlling your thermostat. That is a socialist solution. Take away freedom. But that is apparently what you want, a matching lunch buckets society.
Also from liberal/socialist California, with a state deficit Democrats who rule the state legislature have proposed closing the gap with a $9.7 billion tax hike on business and "the rich.". So in the face of one of the worst real-estate recessions in the state's history, the politicians want to raise taxes on businesses that are still making money.
There is already a reverse gold rush going on in California and the evidence points powerfully toward high tax rates as a culprit. Census Bureau data show that, from 1996-2005, 1.3 million more Americans left than came to California. And the people who are leaving are disproportionately those with higher incomes: the very targets the Democrats want to tax more
This latest tax gambit was unveiled, ironically enough, within days of Toyota announcing it is canceling plans to build its new Prius hybrid at its plant in the San Francisco Bay area because of the HIGH TAX AND REGULATORY COST. (WHAT IS THAT LOUD SUCKING SOUND???) Adding to the humiliation is that Toyota will now take this investment and about 1,000 jobs to a more progressive and pro-business state: Mississippi.
Achievers, wealthy and corporations are telling California "hasta la vista, baby".
This is what vote buying by taxing the evil achievers, wealthy and corporations will do even more to ALL states. Many wealthy people are moving to the Caribbean, South America and Mexico. Beating up the people that produce GDP is insane (but it produces votes and power)
At a time when America needs more CAPITAL to support revitalize its banking system & economy, political prostitutes are buying votes by taxing CAPITAL gains. Insanity, self & party over America.
Investment overseas will follow jobs and corporations.
Do Politicians really care. I don't think any of them do.
Term Limits anyone?????
Name calling not required.
#34 Posted by ChiDem on July 18, 2008 at 10:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Bo Sorrentino -
It's inhumane to allow people to live like the homeless man you mentioned in your letter. I saw the picture, and it brought tears to my eyes to think that in this rich nation people have to live like that, especially in Naples. We don't take care of people who are down on their luck like we should.
#35 Posted by rationalman on July 18, 2008 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Anthony Cambria -
You are right. Those in Washington are spending our tax money on wars that are not necessary, while our citizens are suffering and the country is in debt and falling apart.
#36 Posted by rationalman on July 18, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
ChiDem, you're killing me. I can hardly type for holding my stomach while I laugh. I'm not going to turn down MY A/C, nor do I advocate any law anywhere that mandates I do so! I keep the A/C on 80 - I DO turn off the fans in the unoccupied rooms though. But that's my choice. As for la la land, a Republican is in the executive office. He can veto any such bill (though I doubt one exists). How will the "state" control your t-stat? Did someone send you an email with this far fetched notion and you simply perpetuate it without actually attempting to corroborate it? Will you please tell me something ..... when will you right wingers simply answer a question instead of deflecting one with "but they did this and that". Why are you folks so afraid to take a question head on? Too much blame and/or guilt to acknowledge? Now, don't say "they did this and that." Now I'm logging off. I'll check your response later. Please make it an intelligent one.
#37 Posted by perditionman on July 18, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Cindy Rell's Op Ed pointed out well the reason the Democrats haven't been able to make changes. With virtually no majority in the Senate and a small majority in the House and Bush's veto hanging over their heads, it's pretty hard to do anything.
Also, the Democrats haven't contolled Congress for 3 years. The election was 2 years ago this coming Nov. They took office in January, so it's not even two years since they were the majority.
I think T. Boone Pickins has some good ideas on alternative energy. Wind and Solar sources are in abundance. We should have been utilizing them long ago. It looks like Texas is really stepping up wind power.
Florida being the Sun Shine State should capitalize on Solar Power.
#38 Posted by truthmatters on July 18, 2008 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Why quibble over how many years of broken promises by Democrats since they took over control of congress Truthmatters? Do you rejoice over continual excuses?
BW was referring to the coinage by Democrats of the Republican "culture of corruption," which they started using in election campaigns long before the midterm election. I'll grant you it was way over the heads of liberal socialist Obama moonbats.
Take a refresher course in case you've forgotten.
http://republicanleader.house.gov/bro...
#39 Posted by Rejoice on July 18, 2008 at 12:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Barry Willoughby-you are right on the money about the Democrat role in the mortgage fiasco. What happened to Chris Dodd and his sweetheart deal with Countryside? It just faded away. Ah, the wonderful media.
#40 Posted by cumberlandgal on July 18, 2008 at 12:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Rejoice, there are excuses, and there are facts. The fact is it's a cop out for the Right Wingers to try to shift blame to the Democrats for something they themselves had control of for years.
Also, this sub-prime problem started surfacing last summer. That means the Dems were in only about 6 months. Now you tell me what they could have done.
I used to think Republicans were smart, but what's happened to them I don't know. I guess too many have been loyal to the dumbest leadership we've seen in years and who've dumped our party's principles to follow the pied piper right over a cliff.
Well, I'm dumping that party, and so are a lot of other Republicans, so all of you Right Wingers can sit in your fabricated, poisonous concoction, relegated to the dump where you belong.
You make me ashamed that we even had people like you in our party.
Now, take the blame for what you've done and quit you're stinkin whining, trying to dump blame on anyone you can find.
I say loud and clear, "GO OBAMA, WIN OBAMA!!" We need a good breath of fresh air. We're all dying on the stench coming out of Washington now.
#41 Posted by truthmatters on July 18, 2008 at 1:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
p-man
Arnold is a liberal Republican or a moderate Democrat. Take your pick. Same thing.
You don't even realize there are three distinct groups comprising our party. Based you your posts, I assume you are in the anti-achiever, wealth envy wing.
While you are holding your stomach laughing, go look at your disconnect for your a/c. If you signed up for the FPL conservation program, there is 5 X 5 box next to the disconnect. In a brownout, FPL can disconnect your AC, hot water heater, pool heater etc remotely. It is a voluntary program and you get a break on your bill. California was proposing a similar device to control thermostats. The difference, no choice, mandatory government control. That's what this environmental control the socialists are pushing is all about. You may have miss this when at your Mensa meeting.
Being the worldly person that you are, you must be aware that Patrick Moore was the founder of Greenpeace. He called himself a "radical environmentalist." Several years later, he walked away. Moore said that the fall of communism brought a lot of anti-corporate extremism to the environmental movement. His explanation:
" ..... suddenly, the international peace movement had a lot less to do. Pro-Soviet groups in the West were discredited. Many of their members moved into the environmental movement, bringing with them their eco-Marxism and pro-Sandinista sentiments.” ...”A lot of those in the peace movement were anti-American and pro-Soviet. By virtue of their anti-Americanism, they tended to sometimes favor the communist approach. A lot of those social activists, moved into the environmental movement once the peace movement was no longer relevant." ....... " are now using the rhetoric of environmentalism to promote other collectivist agendas, such as class struggle..."
P-man, remember Moore isn't a conservative. He believed the class struggle cause was a legitimate one; he just didn't want it mixed into the cause of environmentalism.
This is the Polar bear scare. ............. It isn't about the bears at all. It's about preventing these evil oil companies ... these evil corporations ... from discovering and then recovering oil which will not weaken America. It's only about weakening America. A weak America will need more government, but I'm sure you are aware of this, right p-man??
This is where these tired old communists and socialists friends of Barack have been found. Environmentalism and Government education or as they call it, indoctrination. NOW they're the champions of the environment ....... and who wants dirty air, dirty water and annoyed polar bears? Oppose their anti-capitalist agenda and you're against the environment. Easier to fight these people when cause was Karl Marx and not Winnie the Pooh. Who would be against anything for the kids, unless it gives power to parents.
Hope your stomach is better.
#42 Posted by ChiDem on July 18, 2008 at 1:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So, even the most liberal of all know we can't carry the same lunch boxes:
"Barney Frank and the putrefaction of American liberalism"
"“No one expects equality, equality is not a good thing, you can’t have an economy that works if everything’s equal,” said Barney Frank.
http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=144&...
#43 Posted by GoneFishin on July 18, 2008 at 2:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Q. What do Obama and Osama have in common?
A. They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.
#44 Posted by GoneFishin on July 18, 2008 at 2:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ChiDem you've done it again! No, I'm not anti-achiever. That would be like anti-myself! I said I DON'T ADVOCATE any law that mandates when we will run our A/C. Who said anything about a brown out? Not "W" when he said to turn off your A/C when you're not home! Have you seen the condition of some houses in SWFL that haven't had A/C on because people moved out?! And no mention from me of anything environmental - not even polar bears, oil companies, evil corporations, communists, or socialists. In other words, I NEVER SAW ANYONE WRITE SO MANY WORDS AND SAY NOTHING! YOU'RE A PLETHORA OF USELESS INFORMATION! Now, since you don't seem to have much to do, what do you think of Britney Spears giving up custody of her children? I'm gonna get me a cold one now! Later.
#45 Posted by perditionman on July 18, 2008 at 2:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ChiDem, another try to connect Obama to people and economic systems he doesn't believe in.
You know, at least you could point out one thing, one program that Obama supports that even hints he believes in Socialism or Marxism.
Barack is intelligent. He's not tied to any one system. He believes that different situations require different approaches.
I do know his major belief is in individuality and personal achievement. None of that is even close to Marxism.
He worked to get people off of welfare. He believes in hard work, strong families and education so our citizens can compete with the best.
He wants to find ways to keep our companies here.
He will reward industry that stays here and remove tax breaks for industries that leave.
He believes that if we strive to become energy independent, that will not only lower energy costs and make us less tied to what other countries do, but it will also create millions of new jobs.
He believes in cutting our debt by making peace with countries and bringing our troops home. This war-enamored Administration has drained our coffers and run up enormous debt with their incredibly stupid invasions and occupations. The interest alone on the war debt this Administration has run up in on going, eternal and crippling, weighting down every hard working taxpayer.
There is no way a sane person can support what this administration has done.
Also, the predatory lending practices without regulations was outright criminal. I can't say that was the sole fault of this administration, but it never should have been. There have to be some rules in how business is done. We can't allow usury or con artist practices which put too many people at risk.
Wall Street has rules, games have rules, everything has some kind of rules of operation.
Right Wingers are wrong if they think anything goes. They think hitting below the belt is all right too. Well, they're wrong, and even free enterprise has rules.
#46 Posted by truthmatters on July 18, 2008 at 2:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hi truth,
You know what happens when you knock your head against a brick wall? Your head bleeds - the wall doesn't come down. What you said to ChiDem was well said, but do you think it penetrated?
#47 Posted by perditionman on July 18, 2008 at 2:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
To all our friends who don't have their heads in the sand or up .......... Patience is bitter, but the fruit is sweet! January 20 is 6 months away and our long national nightmare will finally be over (except for the sweeping up Nancy Pelosi referred to)!
#48 Posted by perditionman on July 18, 2008 at 3:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
truthmatters said: You know, at least you could point out one thing, one program that Obama supports that even hints he believes in Socialism or Marxism.
truth
See ChiDem at the end of this post? click it.
Then try to read the posts instead of going La La La La La La La a La La La La La La La La It's a Lie I can't see it It's a Lie I can't see it It's a Lie I can't see it It's a Lie I can't see it.
OK I get it, facts will not change your view of Barry. You're willing to take the chance. You've been convinced. Nuff Said. Good luck.
And if he happens to win, I sincerely hope he has changed, leaves his Chicago mentors, friends and advisors in Chicago, except Axelrod, and does everything you PROMISED he would do, and does a lot better than his Community Organization failures.
He can bring his B-ball friends with. They are mostly normal.
No matter whom is elected, there will be more religion. We will need it.
#49 Posted by ChiDem on July 18, 2008 at 3:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
perdition, you know what truth has in common with Obama? He says a lot of words and thinks he's actually saying something.
#50 Posted by GoneFishin on July 18, 2008 at 3:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Why can't we all just get along? Have a nice weekend.
#51 Posted by perditionman on July 18, 2008 at 3:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Just think GF, in a few months we'll have what you call a "pentagon bomber" as Commander In Chief. The best part is, you can't do a freakin' thing about it but sit there and cry.
HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN!!!!!!!
Need a tissue? LMAO.
Catch any more catfish today? LOL.
#52 Posted by boulderbilly on July 18, 2008 at 4:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
perditionman, naw, I don't think ChiDem listens to anything I said. I guess I just answer him for my sake because I hate to see his lies out there unanswered.
I guess if we have to listen to the Right Wing, they can moan about listening to us. Then maybe we're even. But no matter what we say, the truth is still there and won't be changed by them or me.
Time will tell who wins this election, but I know one thing; there will be a big difference in our future if McCain wins, and a big difference if Obama wins. Time will show us what that difference is.
#53 Posted by truthmatters on July 18, 2008 at 4:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
We need a good progressive third party that has some viability. I'm tired of all the bickering by Obama supporters and those who oppose him. I can't see how it accomplishes anything. No one changes anyone's minds.
#54 Posted by rationalman on July 18, 2008 at 5:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"Well, I'm dumping that party"
Oh really truthmatters? Didn't the Collier County Republican executive comittee give you an ultimatum....either resign or get booted out? I am still rejoicing that you elected to resign.
Enough of your crap you were once a Republican. Perhaps a RINO, but never a Republican.
#55 Posted by Rejoice on July 18, 2008 at 6:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Take this quiz and see how your political knowledge stands up to the rest of the country. No cheating now.
#56 Posted by GoneFishin on July 18, 2008 at 6:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sorry, the quiz link didn't paste:
http://pewresearch.org/newsiq/
#57 Posted by GoneFishin on July 18, 2008 at 7:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"Obama is a three-year senator without a single important legislative achievement to his name, a former Illinois state senator who voted "present" nearly 130 times. As president of the Harvard Law Review, as law professor and as legislator, has he ever produced a single notable piece of scholarship? Written a single memorable article? His most memorable work is a biography of his favorite subject: himself."
#58 Posted by GoneFishin on July 18, 2008 at 7:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't know who you are Rejoice, but I've never been kicked out of the Republican Party.
I was a Republican for many years. I campaigned for Goldwater, door to door. I voted for Nixon. I left for a few years in the 70's because the party was taken over by the Religious Right. I returned again in the early 80's because the Democratic Party seemed to have no understanding about business and we were in business. My father was a business man. I have been a Republican ever since. I voted for George W. Bush the first time he ran, and then under his leadership came the Neo Cons who were too hard to stomach. I could see they were not Republicans, were terrible in foreign policy and were going to hurt this country badly. I was right all the way.
But I wasn't the only one who couldn't take it anymore. A lot of my Republican friends can't take Bush's leadership. And the Republicans have to be chastised harshly until they stop this behavior that has nearly destroyed us.
I'm not the one who has hurt our party. I have tried, as have many others, to stop this erosion of our principles, but to no avail. So it leaves me and many of us no choice but to vote for Obama who offers the best chance for saving this country.
The Republicans wouldn't nominate our best choice, Ron Paul. No, they had to nominate another Bush war monger, with the same foreign policy, only worse and no hope for fixing anything.
I don't want to pay for all these ignoramous wars. I don't want our country driven into the ground with debt. I don't want the biggest Federal government we've ever had. I don't want a party that has and had no vision to correct our energy policy or do one dang positive thing for this country.
Now Rejoice, you can sit in that party with blinders on your eyes, stay loyal to it while your country bites the dust, but not me. No party means that much to me. My country comes first, last and always.
#59 Posted by truthmatters on July 18, 2008 at 8:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I find it to be strange that the same folks who like to denigrate the polls (will of the people) and the media (watchdogs of democracy) when they go against a right-wing cause, such as the undeclared war against Iraq, are the first to quote those same polls and media when they want to attack their opponents. We Americans have lost our sense of civic responsibility and have replaced it with a blind sense of political partisanship. We have fogotten how to see both sides of an issue. It takes too much mental energy. Marching in lock-step with a leader is so much easier. Ben Franklin was correct when he said that people who would give up their freedom for security will receive and deserve neither. I fear that our republic stands on the brink, as did the Roman republic two thousand years ago, of becoming an evil empire. One that rules through fear, intimidation and threat rather than consensus... and this is not lost on the rest of the world. Read the foriegn press (if you can wean yourselves from Fox for a moment), and read a history book once in a while. Think for yourselves without depending on other to do it for you. God help us!
#60 Posted by zandersdad on July 19, 2008 at 8:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
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