OBAMA ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even moderate Republicans cannot control themselves. They too are having OBAMAGASMS.

It's Camelot II. Brains and style on Penn. Av. again.

Time for the frumpy bible thumpers to return to Texas where they can't hurt anyone but themselves. Just ask Uncle Cheney to come bird shootin'. When the Secret Service screams "DUCK" they ain't refering to no bird.

LOL.

"Obama is a three-year senator without a single important legislative achievement to his name, a former Illinois state senator who voted "present" nearly 130 times. As president of the Harvard Law Review, as law professor and as legislator, has he ever produced a single notable piece of scholarship? Written a single memorable article? His most memorable work is a biography of his favorite subject: himself."

Obamasocks!

Camelot: Let's see. JFK runs on a bogus ticket created by his father. He gets the Pulitzer Prize by his father's strong arm. He fails at the Bay of Pigs. He gets us into the Cuban Missile Crisis because Khrushchev sees him as weak. He gets assassinated by the people who put him in power.

Yeah, we need that!

No need to search the Internet folks. Just ask GoneFishin. He's omniscient.

Please give him a moment to look it up.

And in GoneFishins fantasy world cowards drive PT boats in enemy infested waters. If JFK were a real man he would have been flying fighters on combat sorties looking for Migs over Houston, like George Jr. While his squadron members were getting shot at in Viet Nam.

Better go to bed GF. You're fightin' a losin' battle here.

LOL.

If I remember correctly GF, Kruschev was one surprised MF when he realized he grabbed a tiger by the tail. Ran all the way back to Moscow with his missiles under his arms.

And please respond GF. Does a weakling command a PT Boat in enemy infested waters or does he fly combat sorties over Houston looking for MIG's while his squadron is getting shot at in Viet Nam?

And just who was a freakin' cheerleader squeeling on the sidelines for the men doing battle on the football field? Kinda an omen of the future, ya think?

Mr. Connolly has it right. Those oil rigs should go up off Bonita Springs beaches. The oil is there! Every Republican knows that oil is in Anwar and it's is a dam shame that Clinton and the Democrats having been pumping it out for the Chinese and Asian market like the rest of Alsaka's product. Oops, I forgot it is an "international market" LOL About drilling where we know the oil is - how about Iraq? A lot more holes there and under less challenging conditions, (the "surge" has everything under control now.)would certainly seem logical and reasonable. They might even contribute to rebuilding their country and paying for our "occupation" (for security reasons -LOL) in the process. And by the way, why not throw an additional "monkey wrench" in the works by having Iraq opt out of OPEC! Wouldn't that be a kick in the head of some shieks? It might even give them an idea of why we are really there. Yes, "drill, drill and drill more. That's the solution. GWB said so, and he's a college graduate, ahem! Persevere.

Bush jr lovers > The only President of the U.S to have a MBA. So much for education.
Bush jr "The worst President of the United States" EVER!

Just yesterday Conservative Pat Buchanon stated that Bush Jr. will go down as worst President ever!

Hang on to your hat. I agree with Boss.

Re: "... and the 'feel-good' attitude of teaching."

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Your other, valid points aside --

I could be wrong, but it seems to me:

there's realy no "feel-good" attitude of teaching in this district.

(So, don't lose any sleep over THAT!)

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Beads, I did that once. Still have not recovered my appetite.

boulder, you cite Camelot, trying to link the new idiot with a myth, then you fall back to bashing Bush, who is out no matter what. I only have one vote and it won't make much difference, but the folks I meet who want Obama are simply buying a lie and backing it up with anti-Bush rhetoric. Sadly funny.

Global Warming? Think again:

"The American Physical Society, an organization representing nearly 50,000 physicists, has reversed its stance on climate change and is now proclaiming that many of its members disbelieve in human-induced global warming."

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx...

GoneFishin......now lets tell the whole story:

Updated 7/17/2008

After publication of this story, the APS responded with a statement that its Physics and Society Forum is merely one unit within the APS, and its views do not reflect those of the Society at large.

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doo, In the last couple years I have grown to like P.B., and would consider voting for him NOW.
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Beads, WOW, What a turn-a-round for you. 'Congradulations' on your good common sense.

Bush Derangement Syndrome is rearing it ugly head again today??? Gore won the vote in Florida is “fact” even though liberal Florida newspapers & the NYT did a recount in hopes of proving Gore won. They were wrong. Bush DID win the popular vote according to their published recount. But the conspiracy that “gave” Bush victory, that he didn’t win still remains a FACT in the syndrome. The syndrome is contagious and spread from Ohlbermanpalsy & MSM disease.

BDS conspiracy theories bring a sort of comfort to the losers of life, the ‘little man’ who’s lost his way. They think that if there are big conspiracies afoot, that explains their inability to achieve success. Conspiracies take on a life of their own, because the people that claims them need the conspiracy to exist, whether or not there is a conspiracy in the first place or more importantly that there is a blasted thing they can do about them even if they were true in the first place, which they almost never are or could be.

The theory acts as a sort of ‘shadow puppet theater’ to the mind. With a “all seeing all knowing” conspiracy in action, these folks get to act out their twisted and irrational vision of the world which has all the reality that they found lit by flashlight in a tent made under the blankets in their childhood bedrooms late in the night; all while the wider adult world goes on oblivious to their pathetic theatrics.

Bush lied? The general incompetence, arrogance and stupidity of the Senate Committee controlled by socialists and Chaired by Jay Rockefeller (D) could not even prove it, no matter how hard they tried. But the empathy filled cries still echo across the country , Bush Lieeeeeeddddddd.. And even Rockefeller after the Senate finding that Bush did not lie, stated that he did. You can see how serious this derangement is.

Bush lied? Not according to Nancy Pelosi who will NOT IMPEACH for fear of what will come out if EVERYONE has to testify truthfully, rather than just shout “Bush Lied!!!!” “ He betrayed us”

America Attacked, Airlines Bailed out. Billions spent on war. Still, economy recovered from 2000 downturn and remained strong, even with an economy killing $5 diesel fuel.

Unemployment has increased to an astronomical 5.5%. In the Clinton administration, 5.6% was considered full employment. The remaining were habitual unemployed.

The syndrome is the irrational disbelief, that President George W. Bush has been truthful and successful in the execution of his policies, and that his actions are, in his belief and the belief of a majority of voters, in the best interests of the United States.

Well, most of the good letters to the editor are not listed here. Does anyone know where they are?

There were so many good letters discrediting the Right Wing claim about Yellow Cake Uranium in Canada et al.

Of course we know Saddam had weapons; we gave he a lot of them, but he had to get rid of them, and he did. That was our demand after the first Gulf War. So, no one is disputing that Saddam had weapons at one time. The fact is he got rid of them as he was ordered to do. And don't think our great president and the CIA didn't know it.

The CIA is too much the arm of the Executive. It should be independent, but it looks like it does what the Executive wants, and often that's some pretty disreputable things.

So, we can hardly believe our Executive, and this one is the most secretive we've had. The Congress can't seem to get much information from them. They claim Executive Privilege on everything. And, something is very wrong there. That virually eliminates many of the checks and balances that are needed to prevent an all powerful Executive.

Bush Jr. may have some degrees, but he's dumber than a rock. He barely made it through, and Daddy gave him help on everything. The only thing he wouldn't allow Daddy to help him with was his stupid invasion of Iraq. Daddy sent his friends to try to ward off this ill fated undertaking, but the little scalliwag Bushy Boy wouldn't listen. The Neo Cons had his ear, fed his ego big time and he did their bidding. Hence we were trapped into the most destructive, heinous and murderous undertaking we've done in a long, long time.

We're sewing what Bush reaped, and Daddy couldn't get him out of this one.

Yes, Pat Buchanan and many other Republicans are well aware of this giant debacle. Bush can't hide it, and we're paying such a huge price that this country is buckling under the strain. In the meantime, the Terrorists are gaily going about recruiting bigger numbers and doing more of their terrorist acts.

BTW McCain will continue Dumb Dumb and expand on it, because McCain has, along with dumb, a bad temper. Most of us have heard about it, though he hides it pretty well in his campaigning. However, even his own cohorts in his own party shudder if he gets the reins.

Also, I do think the man is a little senile. He can't seem to get straight foreign facts about the rest of the world. I mean anyone who still thinks Czechoslovakia still exists is way behind because it's been the Czech Republic for many years now.

I also think we better consider what kind of mental trauma he may have suffered from years as a prisoner of war. We hear all the time about the psychological problems soldiers coming home from battle suffer. It's a shame, but we have to be sure McCain's mind is not affected and his judgment not affected by those years of war.

Being in a war gives no one any special abilities outside of that experience. Even Generals are merely to do strategy after they are told by the Presidency, the Commander in Chief, what he wants.

We saw what happened to those Generals who disagreed with Bush. They were removed.

So, McCain has only his experience in the Congress, which is legitimate, but gives him no special executive abilities.

Obama's mind is clear, brilliant and with excellent judgment at assessing situations. One doesn't have to travel the world to assess its history or have an understanding of it.

By the same token, one can travel the world and yet have no awareness of its history or have any intelligence or judgment of how to deal with it.

Obama is our wisest choice because I feel he can lead us out of this crisis we're in. He cares about America, wants America to succeed and has the intelligence to recognize good ideas whether they come from the left or the right. And, he has no problem joining the Republicans when they have the best solutions.

Some say he's trying to be centrist, but I say, he's trying to pick the best for the country regardless of whose idea it is.

I want to correct my spelling in blog #17. I said we are "sewing" what Bush reaped. I know it should be "sowing" what Bush reaped.

I hope we allow ourselves some leeway when we miss some of our errors.

truth, we give you plenty of leeway to be wrong, too.

But it would be nice to have an edit feature.

Besides, Obama cares about himself.

TM

........Of course we know Saddam had weapons; we gave he a lot of them, but he had to get rid of them, and he did. That was our demand after the first Gulf War. So, no one is disputing that Saddam had weapons at one time...........

.................. The fact is he got rid of them as he was ordered to do .............

(That Saddam is such a practical joker. He disregarded 16 UN Resolutions and had his country invaded, lost power, had his sons killed and lost his own life just to fool us into believing he had weapons when he really didn't, as a joke?? )

.............And don't think our great president and the CIA didn't know it.......

(So let me get this clear. You, the President, the CIA, Barack, and Saddam were the only people in the entire world that knew positively Saddam didn't have WMD's? Sure, it's easy to complain now. But don't you think you should have said something sooner? We could have avoided a lot of trouble.)

Maybe Barack will do good at this President/Commander in Chief gig. He can't do much worse than he did as a Community Organizer/State Senator.
What was it,$156 million he helped funneled into his housing pals?? How many of those units are still inhabitable?? Its it 35?? How much per unit is that??

How long until truth and billy give credit to Obama for the surge working?

Not everyone likes Obama:

His "would be a moral, a Christian administration. Having sat at the feet of that precious vessel of the Lord, the Rev Jeremiah Wright ("doggone America!"), Obama recently reported: "I'm on my own faith journey and I'm searching." That pilgrim's progress has so far inspired him to oppose the banning of partial-birth abortion and block a bill in the Illinois State Senate to prevent the killing of babies who had accidentally survived abortion.

"Yet now comes the really cynical move. On June 17 the US Senate majority leader introduced a bill on behalf of Obama, its sole sponsor: the Preventing Stillbirth and SUID Act of 2008, a measure to combat sudden infant death, designed to put a pro-life patina on Obama's grisly abortion record as he courts the Christian vote."

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/...

It seems our troops in Afghanistan really like thier new commander in chief. This is a good start for his foreign road show, mainly just photo opportunities, but needed just the same.
McCain asked for it, now he's getting it. bye bye

MikeM, FYI it wasn't only I who knew Saddam had no weapons. I listened to Scott Ritter, one of the head UN weapons inspector who said they were finding no weapons. The UN inspectors reported time after time they were finding no weapons. Ritter did say the CIA was more of a menace than a help, always getting in the way of the inspections.

Al Gore gave perhaps the best speech I had heard him give before the Congress voted on the resolution. He said not to give Bush that power. Many Democrats in Congress, namely Dennis Kucinich led a valient effort to deny Bush that vote.

I, who had voted for Bush, began to see after about six months into his term that something was wrong.

After I read Paul O'Neill's book (Bush's first Treasury Secretary) I was convinced this whole thing of Iraq's invasion was a cooked up, pre-planned deal from the start.

Pat Buchanan wrote about it. I wrote about it. A number of people wrote about it prior to the vote by congress.

It was especially obvious when right after 9/11 Bush looked us in the eyes and said, "Everything is different now. Old Rules don't apply." I remember the words because a chill went up my spine, and I said to myself, "What old rules? Like the Constitution?

From that moment on I was totally leery of everything the Administration did. I watched closely how they carefully built up through lies and maneuvering and propaganda and fear the invasion which they had planned way before 9/11.

Also, it was a natural following that Bush would spring on the Congress right after 9/11 the Patriot Act that took out about 3 or 4 of the protections in the Constitution.

I did warn of this. Many people warn of the phoniness of the Iraq Invasion, but the people trusted Bush who said he was protecting them. And that was the biggest lie of all.

How all of you who still believe in those con men up there and give them your loyalty is beyond me.

I've said people can be forgiven for not having foresight, but a rigid stubborness against the truth in hindsight is unforgiveable.

This Administration is guilty of heinous crimes of which it seems they will for now get by with. But I doubt that God can be fooled like us mortals, and they eventually will pay for their sins.

Boy what a great day for "enlightenment". Thanks to MikeM for revealing the "real" reason why Nancy Pelosi isn't instituting impeachment proceedings against Bush and Cheney. She's using "congressional privilege" (that's like "executive privilege" except a little less influential.) to hide the "lies" being perpetrated against the Republican administration. It would all come out just like the hearings in the Clinton administration. I can understand that. Gosh, it's hard to question presidential authority without seeming to be "unpatriotic". It reminds me of my army days when I had to keep quiet or else!

Oh, about those statistics. Kudos to MikeM again. I don't know why people question government figures about unemployment. Anyone can tell that the statistics show how there were less people working during the Clinton era than now. Of course, the government has dropped accounting for those who have just given up looking. It's like inflation figures. The government says inflation is low or non existent, but excludes food and energy figures in their calculations. Heck, nobody should quarrel with that "system". Everybody has to eat and travel to work and about. That's not "optional" and "unrealistic" to hold anybody accountable for those factors. The GOP will tell us that's Econ 101. Oh those subliminal "supply and demand" pressures.

One more thing. Ford pardoned Nixon. Who will pardon Bush? McCain?

Hate to burst your bubble GoneFishin but there is only one reason the surge is working. We are paying millions in protection money to Moqtada Al Sadar. The minute we stop the Shi'ite will hit the fan, as they say.

But what the hell, the Bush Family has a long tradition of paying people off to keep their indiscretions on the QT.

I got to admit though that PRESIDENT OBAMA's welcome in Afghanistan by US troops was like the second coming. The fact that our soldiers now see a glimmer of hope in a true Commander In Chief was refreshing. I thought they went a little overboard when they booed Bush Boy though. The way they just normally laugh at him is more than appropriate.

Halliburton Given Contract To Rebuild Cheney

WASHINGTON, DC—Halliburton was awarded an $85.5 million contract to rebuild damaged U.S. Vice President Richard Cheney Monday. "We are proud to serve the executive branch in their hour of need," CEO David J. Lesar wrote in a statement released later that day. "Due to our vast experience with oil-well fires and refinery mishaps, we are well-versed in the sort of reinforcement, rewiring, and exoskeleton refitting Mr. Cheney so desperately needs." The Department of Ways and Means defended awarding the contract to Halliburton on the grounds that they had done the original work on Cheney in the 1970s.

"I hope we allow ourselves some leeway when we miss some of our errors."

#20 Posted by truthmatters

I "except" that truthmatters. How about you Mr. bossman? You're such an exceptional talent, I'll bet you will "except" that also.

You never answered my question Mr. bossman. Is USS still "excepting" management postions from hard working union steel workers? Or, are those days long gone?

Again... all you moonbats be sure and vote for Obama. Even though Obama is a few fries short of a Happy Meal, he really deserves your vote.

Rejoice,

I salute you. Typing with a pencil in your teeth must be cumbersome.

"Maybe Barack will do good at this President/Commander in Chief gig. He can't do much worse than he did as a Community Organizer/State Senator.
What was it,$156 million he helped funneled into his housing pals?? How many of those units are still inhabitable?? Its it 35?? How much per unit is that??"

#23 Posted by MikeM

Don't ask a hyponotized follower of Obama such complicated questions Mike. They don't care about the rat-infested habitats Obama built for his low-income voting constituents. As long as the big money made it into the hidden bank accounts of Rezco and other faithful cronies, nothing else matters. Let us all rejoice in Obama virtue.....policy we can believe in.

GoneFishin....I just want you to know I appreciate the tireless effort you are making on this blog trying to educate those whom refuse to get educated regarding Obama.

While others might get discouraged....you just keep hammering away. It has to be disappointing to the Obama lemmings every time you bring up such valid points that prove Obama to be nothing more than a flash in the pan.

I continually rejoice there are people like you, along with millions of others, that recognize Obama for what he is.....just another political hack that will say and do anything to get elected. His watered down version of so many orignial stances, along with his numerous flip-flops, is almost comical. A junior Senator, with no major accomplisments and experience running our country.......give me a break.

Iraqi PM says US should leave as soon as possible!!!

Oh darn.....not another victory for Bush is it? You just wait, Obama and followers will somehow try and take credit for the success of the surge and this latest civil affairs achievement presented to Iraq.... compliments of true American patriots, including the brave men and women in uniform, and their counterpart coalition from U.S. allies promoting world peace through victory over evil.

Boulderbilly - I'm shocked! Really shocked to hear that we are paying off Iraqi factions not to fight and stay in their harems. That sounds like the guy in the movie "Casablanca" saying he didn't know gambling is going on in Rick's Cafe.

I wonder how many people don't realize that life in the voluntary army these days also requires a lot of collateral support like doing KP, providing security and protection of individuals and quarters (that's facilities) to the tune of about 150,000 high paid civilian "contractors". The Pentagon and Georgie don't like to bring that up. Could it be a contributing factor to keep economic "indicators" on "life support". while actually avoiding the acknowledgement of a recession? (statistics again) Anyway, business is business and takes priority over anything if you are a true GOP capilist. Sort of like that guy Kudrow on TV.

Sooner or later voters will get it and then they can go "fishin".

Ele, Your posting of clear facts in a way even these dolts can understand is refreshing.
You are correct about the $4 trillion dollars Bush jr borrowed to give to his friends and foreign interests. I'm sure they didn't teach him that when going for his MBA.
Don't forget the billions of loans he forgave to get a few countries to join him in bombing and invading Iraq.
Bush jr "The worst U.S President ever".

Joanna...thanks for that post.not surprised Halas was behind that....his understanding(not)of increasing beach access was to build a pier in an already bottle-necked area.it's about money and courting favor....that's government today.

I always love reading truthmatters idiotic posts. She rails on McCain for some Czech Republic thing all the while ignoring the fact that Hussein seems to think that there are 57 states in the US. She is a truly hypnotized moron.

tamer,

Some like capitalism & the associated freedom.
Some like socialism, dependency and matching lunch buckets.

No need to get nasty because you don't like someone else's choice.

As far as people not knowing about "contractors", apparently YOU are not aware it started in previous administration.

Gore is on Meet the Press now, saying "Look at the fires in California." "Look at the epic floods in the mid-west." Didn't they flood like that a decade or so ago? He's still spouting the lies about the hockey stick charts.

hi truthmatters, boulderbilly, bossman, elephanttamer, et al - maybe we should post comments to each other (perhaps in response to right wing drivel at times) and focus on the truth and solutions instead of regaling these divisive idiots and their vacuous rhetoric with direct dialogue. I think it's counterproductive to try to change the mind of a blockhead (especially a well heeled blockhead) when time could be spent exchanging meaningful discourse. Now, this is not a suggestion that we exclude republicans whose minds are not so poisoned that they are incapable of a move away from the paradigms of the far right. I, in fact, am a registered independent capable of voting republican - just not McSame. I am also proud to be a patriotic American who didn't vote for Dubya either, though I voted for his father in '88 but Clinton in '92. It's time to move away from the politics of division as practiced by GoneFishin, ChiDem, Rejoice, etc. and do our small part to unify the country in our time of darkness. So, I will respond to the posts of these hoity-toity, jabberwocky spewing members of American society - but to you all. BTW - I said a prayer in church this morning that they'll snap out of the right wing trance they're in and come back to earth.

perdition, you are clearly among the left that thinks they are in the center. Anything to the right of you is right wing, even though it's really the center. You have no meaningful discourse, you are simply off course.

GF - it's Sunday and I forgive you. What are you doing inside? Get out there and catch some catfish! Yum!

Barack's gonna be on Meet the Press next week!!!!!! I can't wait! Hey, an added bonus is that it's a week closer to 1/20/09. I encourage all to tune in and hear a real presidential sounding presidential candidate - not a snake oil salesman parading like a robot on some town hall stage calling everyone "my friends". They probably are his friends though because they've all been pre-screened. Proof of that is the librarian who went to a speech with a McCain = Bush sign and was not only kept out but arrested (on public property).
Seems McCain doesn't want to be associated with anything Bush (at least in the light of day). I wonder why the far right doesn't get it. I wonder why McCain doesn't get it! His aides toss out folks like that librarian, yet he wants to perpetuate every single one of Bush's failed policies.

Just about every Democrat in the country has repeated some version of Bush lied, and the notion that the Bush administration deceived the American people has become the accepted narrative of how we went to war.

Yet in spite of all the accusations of White House "manipulation" -- that it pressured intelligence analysts into connecting Hussein and Al Qaeda and concocted evidence about weapons of mass destruction -- administration critics continually demonstrate an INABILITY to distinguish making claims based on flawed intelligence from knowingly propagating falsehoods, yet they make proven false claims.

In 2004, the Senate Intelligence Committee unanimously approved a report acknowledging that it "did not find any evidence that administration officials attempted to coerce, influence or pressure analysts to change their judgments." The following year, the bipartisan Robb-Silberman report similarly found "no indication that the intelligence community distorted the evidence regarding Iraq's weapons of mass destruction."

Contrast those conclusions with the Senate Intelligence Committee report issued June 5, the production of which EXCLUDED Republican staffers and which only two GOP senators endorsed. In a news release announcing the report, committee Chairman John D. Rockefeller IV got in this familiar shot: "Sadly, the Bush administration led the nation into war under false pretenses." which was a blatantly false statement as his committee just proven.

Yet Rockefeller's highly partisan report does not substantiate its most explosive claims. Rockefeller, for instance, charges that "top administration officials made repeated statements that falsely linked Iraq and Al Qaeda as a single threat and insinuated that Iraq played a role in 9/11." Yet what did his report actually find? That Iraq-Al Qaeda links were "substantiated by intelligence information." The same goes for claims about Hussein's possession of biological and chemical weapons, as well as his alleged operation of a nuclear weapons program.

Four years on from the first Senate Intelligence Committee report, war critics, old and newfangled, still don't get that a lie is an act of deliberate, not unwitting, deception. If Democrats wish to contend they were "misled" into war, they should vent their discontent at the CIA.

Democrats have continued this false assertion because their base does not consist of independent thinkers and will believe and parrot the talking points until they run out of breath. 100% Not the slightest retreat, even with proven facts.

Time after time after time it has been proven the administration simply got bad intelligence. Critics are wrong to assert otherwise and expose our country to harm..

perdition,

Is that worse than Hussein having muslim women removed?

Fish believes he's in the middle politically. Ok, I do believe he really thinks that.
Maybe he will tell the rest of our us posters where we stand politically.

gone fishing and what was your reason for voting for the Bush's their wonderful record of success? They promised to be the Education Presidents, look how well that is panning out. Dems are not the ruination of the world, even if you think so you have been out in the sun to long I fear.

MikeM you are the pot calling the kettle black.
OMG that is not politically correct to say that anymore either. Whiny babies in both parties.
Little wonder the "Independents" are now the largest group registered.
You people are making Democrat and Republican a dirty word.

pippin, I voted against Kerry and Gore.

Sorry 9/11 derailed No Child Left Behind.

But the democrats are the party of the teacher's unions, not the kids.

boss, you are playing left wing.

pippin,

Your rebuttal was fantastic.

However, not nearly enough name calling.

However, the liberals have worn out idiot, moron, imbecile, jerk, and the latest that someone found on a hate website dolt.

Show the entire world you're a free thinker, independent, not a parrot unable to form your own thoughts. Be fresh, new and original.

On your next post when you use the proverbial name calling, use nincompoop. You will really impress other name callers

umleed, and the rest of you 16 percenters, let us rejoice that 1/20/09 will be here before we know it!
Who's Hussein? Oh, Barack?! So umleed, you're a racist too? A religious intolerant? Or both?!
Let's see: Our country was founded on religious freedom. We're fighting to free Muslims from a dictator (not my idea) that was captured nearly five years ago then hanged. Bush wants to bring (impose)democracy to the Middle East, yet every time someone criticizes W and his henchmen we're branded as unpatriotic. hmmmmmm
Now umleed, I'm going to answer your question. No, it's not worse IN PRINCIPLE than OBAMA's AIDES having Muslim women removed. I'll let it go about the arrest on public property piece - although that is a violation of her civil rights that you right wingers purport to stand for. The DIFFERENCE is that Obama acknowledged the mistake and apologized for it LIKE A MAN.

What's the matter perdition? Are you ashamed of your man's middle name? According to the leftists it's ok to call George Bush "W" but anybody who uses Hussein is a racist or any number of other things. What are you afraid of? Also, Hussein did not apologize for anything "LIKE A MAN". He apologized like the weasel politician that he is.

GF, no child left behind was a bi-partisan bill that was under-funded by the Bush administration. If you think the republicans are the party of the kids, keep your head in the sand. Any good recipes for catfish?
To MikeM -
definition: Conservative - favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.
definition: Liberal - not limited to or by traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes or dogmas; free from bigotry. (American Heritage College Dictionary - 3rd Ed.)
In other words, the liberals ARE THE INDEPENDENT THINKERS. The administration got the intelligence it sought. Garbage in, garbage out! It told the agency to make the intel fit the mission. And you know it!

What am I afraid of umleed? 4 more years of George Bush!

perdition,

You just answered my question. You are obviously not very bright, that's why you are voting for Hussein. You can't get 4 more years of George Bush but I guess you fit right in with the man who thinks there are 57 states and that the Japanese dropped 1 bomb on Pearl Harbor. I guess you 2 were made for each other.

umleed, 1/20/09 is coming! :)

Hey umleed, go back and read your posts and tell me who's not very bright. Enough said!

perditionman,

Very impressive thinker. Your are the hit at the Mensa meetings I presume.

Your playground debating skills are similar to Ron White's.

So Umleed is back. Ugh. Have to listen to his Bush fawning and his racism calling Barack Hussein. He knows why he calls Barack Hussein. Who does he think he's kidding? The rest of us are not so dumb as he is.

The reason Bush is sometimes called W is to distinguish him from his father. You know that, Umleed.

Umleed, you just ooze hate. That seems to be the standard for the Right Wing now. Get too close to them and the hate nearly knocks one over.

Obama made a slip of the tongue when he said 57 states. He knew better. The problem is when McCain makes a mistake, he doesn't know better. In fact, he doesn't know at all. He's about 180 degrees from a scholar.

Rejoice, we'll see if you're rejoicing after the election. You Right Wingers have given it all you've got in the lie department. You've shown you can repel truth better than any.

And the reason you call anyone other than yourselves LEFT is because you're so Right, there's no room for anyone to the Right of you.

I guess you think on the scale there's only Left and Right. But, you're wrong. There's always the middle between them. And there are many degrees on both sides of the linear scale.

However, if Left means not being Right or not being intolerant, lying and thick headed, I'll take the title Left gladly. Who'd want to be associated with that Right Wing thick headed crowd anyway?

Hmmmm, the discourse is getting a bit "belligerent". I don't think anyone on this site is naive enough to think they are going to change the opposition's thinking. Quite the contrary. It is enough, at least for me, to "expose" the rhetoric for all to see.

The Obama "insults" are a bit dramatic. For me, it is a bit disparraging as I personally feel that the Democratic nominee will carry a lot of "baggage" with him into the election and beyond. History, "tradition" and "impulses" will create a climate of revulsion that will impede the promised changes and progress. Unfortunately, that's just the way it is. We can't change that, no matter how many times we go to church.

I think the upcoming election will be like the Watergate debacle aftermath. Jimmy Carter had to come in and "pick up the pieces". It wasn't nice, and he was subject to a lot of challenges that were outwardly against his philosophy and programs.

Yes, I remember 20% prime rates, and I also recall buying 3 year CD's yielding 16 to 18 % interest. It was all a case of that "conservative responsibilty for taking care of one's actions. So much for dialogue.

Jimmy may be challenged by Obama, if he wins, but he certainly has been "outclassed and beaten for any negative evaluation" by George W. Bush. That is a "no-brainer" - no pun intended!

MikeM, how about acknowledging that I and many others warned about this phoney Iraq war. Don't tell me your ears were closed? Oh, of course they were closed. You only hear what you want to hear; the rest you're deaf to.

I have to say, you Right Wing, dying breed, you do go kicking and screaming to your end. My problem is that you think you can cow the rest of us with your erroneous summations of the facts. And, even in spite of all the proof that Iraq was built on a lie, you still cling to your little hopes, your little threads of finding something that will stick.

As for the Surge, naturally putting more troops into Iraq should give more control, however, as was mentioned, we did buy off al Sadr. If he decided to let loose, things would look quite different.

The Surge didn't solve any problems. Those still remain. The Surge merely quelled some of the violence, however not by a whole lot considering what it cost us.

The solution now is political and left up to them.

I'm just hoping we realize that as much as this Iraq misadventure cost us, it will be nothing compared to an invasion into Iran. We'd better not get so big for our britches that they burst.

Iraq had nothing with which to defend it self. It had been under years of sanctions and many died of starvation because of them. So we invaded a weak, weak country, but that's not the condition of Iran, and it's much bigger in size and population.

So, We will kill ourselves if we are so foolish to tangle with them.

But, it isn't just our tangling with them. invasion will send oil prices to the moon. We will kill ourselves economically, and our debt will consume us.

So, you Right Wingers stop licking your chops over that venture unless you hate this country so much you want to get rid of it.

truthmatters,

What triggered your outburst??? Did I upset you because I have an opinion??? Jeeeezzz

Am willing to debate facts but "everyone knows" or "that is a lie" is not debating.

If you can't enter into an intelligent debate, don't get involved or mention anyone's opinion. Just spew your baseless opinions or regurgitate someone else's & leave like a good little boy.

If you get too psyched out to participate, take a day off.

Find someone else on the playground to argue with. There is a difference between arguing and debating.

truthmatters,

So Hussein knows better when he keeps getting things wrong? How many times do you have to keep making that excuse for him? When not on a prompter the man is an idiot.

As for the right and their supposed lies, why don't you talk to your man Hussein about lies. He lies about his family and their involvement in WWII, he lies about having to work through college, he lies about his relationships with America hating terrorists and you have the nerve to complain about the right lying. That might be the biggest joke ever.

Hey truth,
Struck a nerve with the illuminati wannabes huh? All hail Hussein Obama! President Hussein! Now that's catchy! I like it umleed!!!!

Umleed, Barack's grandfather served in WWII. Not good enough for you?

What lies has Barack told? Name them. Even one will do.

I will say you do get to me, but then lies have always gotten to me, like the lies that have caused so many deaths in Iraq and brought this country down. You're right. I get very angry about those kinds of lies.

I suppose you like lies. Seems to me that Clinton pretty well drove you guys crazy with some of his.

So, what it seems to boil down to is whose lies are they? Well, I'm pretty even on that. I don't like lies, period.

I'm pretty proud of Barack the way he doesn't bend under all your lies. However, your guy McCain doesn't have to worry about dirt being thrown at him because he was a prisoner of war. That makes him off limits.

So, anyway, we'll see how this all turns out. Barack is strong and brilliant. He'll make a great president. And it won't be hard to do a much better job than has been done by George W., vying for the worst presidency ever.

What?!

So we call him "H"?!

Then we remove all of the "H"'s from the keyboards?!

Good night everyone. Talk to you tomorrow. Whatever is, we're all in this together.

truthmatters,

Obama said: "I had a uncle who was one of the -- who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps."

Not only did Hussein not have an uncle in the war, it was the Red Army that liberated Auschwitz.

Hussein says in a campaign ad that he had to work his way through college and Law School. Problem is records show that he had only 2 jobs and both were during the summer.

How about this little gem:

Hussein says, "My upbringing was much more reflective of what working class black and whites go through than John McCain's background being raised as the son of an admiral in boarding schools or Hillary Clinton out in the suburbs of Park Ridge".

Let's see. In Hawaii, he attended Punahou School, an elite private prep academy that was paid for by his grandmother, a BANK VICE PRESIDENT.

What is it going to take for you people to see that this mans entire story is a sham and a fabrication. Wake up.

Umleed, you are really pathetic.

You have NOTHING to complain about except Barak only worked two jobs in the summer, and that his grandmother was a bank vice president.
I suggest you read his book, as you are getting your facts from bogus right wing emails.

Back when his grandmother worked in a bank, women could be secretaries and not much else. The grandparents l