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Collier Democrats get to pick a sheriff for first time in 20 years

By RYAN MILLS (Contact)
10:06 p.m., Monday, July 21, 2008

Collier County Democrats are accustomed to being outnumbered.

And for at least two decades, Democrats have also gotten used to letting Republicans pick the Collier sheriff.

That’s all about to change.

For the first time in at least 20 years, Democrats and independents will be on equal footing with Republicans when it comes to electing the next sheriff of Collier County.

Because all three sheriff candidates — Vinny Angiolillo, Victor Ortino, and Kevin Rambosk — are Republicans, the Aug. 26 primary is a universal primary, meaning it will be open to all Collier voters. The Florida Constitution was amended in 1998 to create a universal primary when all candidates seeking an office are from the same party, said Dave Carpenter, qualifying officer with the Collier County Supervisor of Elections Office.

If another candidate had entered the mix as either a Democrat, an independent, a third party candidate or an unaffiliated write-in, the Republican primary would have been closed.

“It’s a chance for everybody to participate in the race,” Carpenter said. “I think it’s kind of neat, actually.”

On Monday night, more than 150 people jammed into a room at the Norris Community Center, where the three candidates introduced themselves at a forum sponsored by the Collier County Democratic Club. The candidates answered questions from the crowd about managing the Sheriff’s Office’s budget in tough economic times, red light cameras, the role of youth relations deputies, racial profiling and training deputies to deal with the mentally ill.

“I’m looking for honesty and their ability to do the job,” said Ken Paterson, a registered Democrat and former corrections officer in New Jersey who has lived in Collier County since 1996.

Over the past two decades, Democrats in Collier County haven’t had much opportunity to have their voices heard in the race for sheriff. Even in 1992 and 2000, when there were candidates to choose from in the general election, the real races were fought in the Republican primaries.

“We should have a say,” said Steve Hemping, newly-elected chair of the Collier County Democratic Executive Committee. “All citizens of the county should have a say, especially for an important job as sheriff.”

The last contested race for Collier sheriff was in 2000, when Sheriff Don Hunter upended state fraud investigator Biff Lagan by a 62 percent to 38 percent margin in the closed Republican primary.

Democrats were only allowed to vote in the Nov. 7 general election when Hunter took on 52-year-old Bobbi C. Canyon, an Air Force veteran and unemployed security guard at the time, who was running with no party affiliation and an arrest record.

It was a similar story in 1992, when the Republican primary was more hotly contested than the general election.

After first being elected in 1988, Hunter faced stiff competition for reelection in 1992 in Mike Koors, a 12-year veteran of the Sheriff’s Office. Hunter edged Koors by only 592 votes in the primary, and then handily defeated Drug Enforcement Administration agent John Lepore, who ran as an independent, in the general election with 45,818 votes to Lepore’s 24,472.

In 1988 Hunter, who was then-Sheriff Aubrey Rogers’ hand-picked successor, trounced four challengers in the Republican primary, and was unopposed in the general election after Democrat C.C. “Red” Holland dropped out of the race for health reasons.

Hunter ran unopposed in 1996 and 2004.

One way Democrats could ensure a say in the race for sheriff would be to run a Democratic candidate, but that hasn’t happened in recent elections. Rogers was the last Democratic sheriff of Collier County, Carpenter said, but he eventually switched parties.

“We’re going to have candidates run. ... Bona fide candidates,” Hemping said. “One of my objectives of running for county chair was to build the party from the grass roots up so we can have qualified people available to run for all these offices, including sheriff.”

The dominance of the Republican Party in Southwest Florida has made that difficult over the years, Hemping said.

In Collier County Republicans outnumber Democrats by a margin of more than two to one — 100,036 registered Republicans to 49,707 registered Democrats as of June 1, according to the elections office. There are also 38,215 voters registered as “nonpartisan” and 8,494 registered as “other.”

“I think there’s just been an attitude here that if you really want to get elected in Collier County, you have to run as a Republican,” Hemping said.

Every resident should have a say in who is elected sheriff, said Jim Flagler, a former Republican who said he switched sides about four years ago. He sat in the front row at Monday’ forum.

“Of course that concerns me. The sheriff, it almost ought to be non-partisan,” Flagler said. “What the sheriff does is protect the people of the county. ... The party makes no difference.”

The three sheriff candidates agreed that it was good all voters will get a say in the August election.

Rambosk said the sheriff is the sheriff of all people, and he was campaigning on his qualifications and his 30-year record as a law enforcement officer in Collier County. Rambosk, who resigned from the Sheriff’s Office last week to avoid running afoul of a federal election law, wore a suit and tie to the forum instead of his usual Sheriff’s Office uniform.

“It’s very important that they have an opportunity to participate, and it’s great that they do,” Rambosk said of the Democratic voters.

Ortino, a private investigator for 24 years, said he believes it is to his advantage that Democrats are voting in the primary. He said Rambosk is backed by the “Republican elite” and is part of an “entrenched system” at the Sheriff’s Office.

“It’s the air of change in the whole political arena,” Ortino said. “Democrats don’t want the entrenched system that’s been there for so long.”

Angiolillo, the owner of Class Act Limousine in North Naples and former Connecticut state trooper, said it’s not fair that Democrats and independents have had no voice when it comes to electing a sheriff.

“I don’t think its fair to the community,” he said. “There are other people than Republicans living in this community.”

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I am glad to see that this election is open to all voters as it should be. I was truly expecting a fake "write in" candidate to appear to close up the primary. I am glad to see that did not happen.

I agree with the one man's comment in the article that the sheriff's race should not be a partisan office. This person is charged with the safety of all the citizens of the county. It should have nothing to do with any political party.

#1 Posted by swfl_ff on July 21, 2008 at 10:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Once again, Congratulations, Sheriff Rambosk.

#2 Posted by nickm on July 21, 2008 at 10:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The "debate" was not a debate at all. But if the good Democrats are smart they will endorse Ortino. The encumbent regime of the ousted Mr. Rambosk has got to go. Rambosk talked as if he was still employed by the department. He was just forced to resign for breaking Federal Law. He is not what this county needs in a sheriff.

Vote ORTINO for sheriff.

#3 Posted by W_Coyote on July 21, 2008 at 10:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was there. Rambosk and his people were so rude, they left immediately after Rambosk said his last word. Ortino and his supporters were polite and respectful and stayed. That says a lot to me and should say a lot to everyone else.

Ortino kicked butt at this meeting. He is far and away the best man for sheriff

ORTINO! ORTINO! SHERIFF ORTINO.

#4 Posted by Toesmom on July 21, 2008 at 10:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ortino talked about the needed change in the sheriffs office and he is dead on accurate. Rambosk is the same old tired stuff. The agency and the community deserve better than Rambosk can or will offer. The smart choice is Ortino. Talk to the deputies and to the public that has had to endure the attitude at the sheriffs office. The few there that act so outrageously to the public make a bad name for them all. And that Bad Attitude is promoted by the current regime and by Mr. Obama-Rambosk. Why was Obama-Rambosk wearing a sheriffs star tie tac? He just cannot help but try to identify himself as the incumbent even though he was forced to leave the department.

Get rid of all the incumbents, especially Obama-Rambosk.

Ortino is right, it is time for change. Forget about Obama-Rambosk.

Bring the community back to our sheriffs department. Vote Ortino.

#5 Posted by longtimecitizen on July 21, 2008 at 10:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh, I forgot to mention that Rambosk said that profiling does not go on in the sheriffs department. That is not true. I know and talk to a lot deputies and what goes on in that department that is encouraged by the supervisors needs to change.

And since Rambosk is not a deputy anymore how can he display a sheriffs star and use the sheriff colors of green and yellow and show pictures of himself in a uniform? Rambosk is not a deputy anymore since he was made to quit the department. All of his campaign stuff should be made to not show him as a current deputy. Thats false advertising. We dont need a false advertising sheriff.

Ortino for sheriff.

#6 Posted by Toesmom on July 21, 2008 at 11:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was really impressed with Ortinos performance at this debate. He was a lot better than the other candidates. I never paid much attention to the race for sheriff but Ortino has really electrified the community.

I will vote Ortino and so should everyone else. I hope the Democrat Party gives Ortino their full support.

#7 Posted by diamondgrl on July 21, 2008 at 11:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't understand what's wrong with the current way the sheriff office is run, every time I've called them they've been there in 3-8 minutes and been very professional. Change is not needed at the CCSO.

#8 Posted by personalj on July 21, 2008 at 11:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Registered Democrat voting for Ortino.

Good Luck, Mr. Ortino

#9 Posted by whatsright on July 21, 2008 at 11:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kevin Rambosk, I have seen and now I believe. I believe in your campaign, your values, and your ideas for the future of Collier County. The men and women of this great community will be in good hands with you in charge. I am a proud democrat of Naples and I just want you to know you have my vote. You have my families vote. And you have my friends vote. Kevin you have truly served this community with dedication and on election day I am confident it will serve you.

Democrats for RAMBOSK 2008

#10 Posted by Mr_Democrat on July 21, 2008 at 11:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just a reminder, Ortino is the only candidate on the ballot by petition. 2,000 voters signed petitions to insure that he would be on the ballot.

#11 Posted by sunnydaze on July 22, 2008 at 12:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thats a good point. Rambosk bought his way onto the ballot. He could not get enough signatures from the voters to qualify by petition. Typical of the way the sheriffs department has run for decades.

And Rambosk has followed Ortino this whole campaing. Ortino first to announce his candidacy. Ortino first to put up signs. Ortino first, Ortino first. Rambosk is a follower; a reactionary, a lemming.

Ortino is the leader, the driving force, the visionary. Rambosk is the typical bureaucrat. Change is needed. I know so many deputies. They really do not like the way the agency is run or the things they are forced to do or the attitude they have to endure from management. MOST of the rank and file are the greatest people, the best officers, so dedicated and honorable. It is the management at the sheriffs department that is way less than is should be. It is time for change. Ortino will IMPROVE the agency.

Good luck Mr. Former Deputy Forced to Resign Rambosk. Ortino will be the new sheriff, and thats a good, good thing.

#12 Posted by W_Coyote on July 22, 2008 at 12:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Interesting Debate. Rambosk showed up with 20 deputies in tow. Not a one smiling and they all stood in the corner arms crossed glaring at the crowd. Rambosk had a response to each question, a response not an answer, he responded with what sounded like pre-determined diatribe that generally had nothing to do with the question. While Ortino is nowhere near as polished a speaker as Rambosk he answered the questions with sincerity and had a solid grasp of what needs to be done.
We do not need a politician with huge political debt to the Naples power brokers.

Ortino: A Sheriff of the people and for the people. Its time for change....

#13 Posted by SwampRat on July 22, 2008 at 1:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

On a side note Rambosk was wearing on his lapel a Large Sheriff Star with the Seal of the State of Florida. By State Law that can only be worn by active members of the Sheriff's department that are representing the CCSO in an official capacity. This is State Law so Hunter cannot give him special dispensation to use it. Was this an oversight or does he think that the law does not apply to him?
He is putting signs up on properties without getting permission from the owners (can provide examples if you want). The law says that you have to have a signed permission slip from the owners. Again is this an oversight or is he above the law?
State Law says that the five pointed star can only be used by Law Enforcement agencies or their personnel. Why does Rambosk's signs all have giant five pointed Sheriffs stars on them. Is he ignorant of the law or above the law?

#14 Posted by SwampRat on July 22, 2008 at 1:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ortino is a disaster. He couldn't even answer one question. I wouldn't hire him to be dogcatcher.

Victor, you really should know the 50 states. What a loser!

EVERYONE FOR RAMBOSK!

#15 Posted by hah007 on July 22, 2008 at 2:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ortino suupporters don't know who Obama is...

What do you call an Ortino supporter? Uninformed like their candidate.

RAMBOSK FOR SHERIFF

#16 Posted by phyllisknows on July 22, 2008 at 6:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm diamondgal and I am voting for Kevin Rambosk the most qualified candidate for the job.

Vic, I'm pretty sure you still have a Junior Trooper badge you can pin on your jacket if your so worried about Rambosk wearing a pin...wa wa wa wa ( I'm gonna take my ball and go home) wa wa wa wa. Vinny loan Victor one of your Junior Trooper badges along with a map of the United States. lol ! lol

I see an Ortino supporter changed their screen name to diamondgrl. It won't work too late.

#17 Posted by diamondgal on July 22, 2008 at 7:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The Junior Troopers pulled Vic's badge, too.

All he can do is whine!

He's got NOTHING else!

Vic, quit changing your budget numbers. But then you never could tell the truth.

We don't understand you to begin with, Mister Mumbles.

RAMBOSK FOR SHERIFF! RAMBOSK FOR SHERIFF!

#18 Posted by jimmymick on July 22, 2008 at 7:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

DiamondGAL, first of all I don't think Victor was at FHP long enough to earn a Junior Trooper Badge. (only issued to 3rd graders who want to be policemen when they grow up)

Bottom Line:

Ortino and Vinny don't even have the qualifications required for several local Police Chief positions.

How can these two even think they can run the Sheriff's Office with a multi million dollar budget?

#19 Posted by lawyerboy on July 22, 2008 at 7:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You must be kidding little vic could not even keep his breath, couldn't answer questions and kept his usual negative tribute to the Sheriff's Office. Hopefully, Sheriff-elect Rambosk will soon correct your false statements regarding the Moritz case and the other lies you fabricate.

I received a card for colliercitizens4integrity.org. Interesting documents on all players. Voters need to see the FHP document on little vic.

Rambosk for Sheriff!

#20 Posted by Vetres73 on July 22, 2008 at 7:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think that Vinnie is now the No. 2 contender in the race, sliding quickly past Ortino based on Monday night's race.

But no one can beat Kevin Rambosk, your next Collier County Sheriff.

#21 Posted by imawinner on July 22, 2008 at 7:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Interesting reading, Vetres73.

The State Attorney says there was enough evidence to arrest Victor Ortino for time fraud. Shame on him for even thinking about running with this criminal past! We don't need someone like that being our Collier County Sheriff.

Fold up your campaign tent, Victor, you're history.

Rambosk for Sheriff!

#22 Posted by nickm on July 22, 2008 at 7:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I was there too and Ortinot called Minneapolis a STATE! how lame is that? Even my 5th grader is smarter than that (isnt that a TV show?)!

Vote Rambosk!

#23 Posted by grillerdad on July 22, 2008 at 7:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The Rambosk pop-up ad is the straw that broke this camel's back. I hate pop-ups and will not support anyone or any company that uses them.

Ortino for sheriff!

#24 Posted by myrealname on July 22, 2008 at 7:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Love the pop up ad! Kevin looks so professional. I was there to grill and I agree that Mr. Ortino really bombed in the discussions. He didn't know some very key answers to issues and couldn't even come up with a decent answer. I almost felt sorry for him because he was so uncomfortable addressing a group.

#25 Posted by sesame2u on July 22, 2008 at 7:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I like the ad.

And I especially find www.ramboskforsheriff.com informative.

I vote for professionalism and that's what I see in Kevin Rambosk, our next Collier County Sheriff.

#26 Posted by hah007 on July 22, 2008 at 7:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I forgot one thing. Vic made a comment about the "Republican Elite" controlling things. His own wife, Virginia Ortino is currently a member of the Republican Executive Committee. Would this not make her part of the "Republican Elite".

Throw your own party down while addressing another is two faced and not trustworthy!

Unification not Division

#27 Posted by Vetres73 on July 22, 2008 at 7:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Victor Ortino turned on his wife to make political hay?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Despicable man.

Goin' down in flames, Victor.

#28 Posted by hah007 on July 22, 2008 at 8:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Command staff question:

Collier 12
Hillsborough 29

No comparision

Budget Question Collier County vs. Lee County

Lee County law enforcement agencies:
Lee Sheriff
Ft. Myers P.D.
F.G.C.U. Police
Sanibel P.D.
Cape Coral P.D.
Lee County Port Authority
Headquarters for FHP and FDLE

Collier County law enforcement agencies:
Collier Sheriff
Naples PD-85 officers
Marco PD-30 officers

If this needs explanation, you need not run for the office.

#29 Posted by Vetres73 on July 22, 2008 at 8:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Of course Ortino is jealous of all the support Rambosk is getting from the Republicans (and Dems and Independents)and all the endorsements Rambosk has received. I think there are about 25 professional organizations backing Rambosk now.

Ortino's endorsements? One out of town organization that jumped on his little wagon way too early in the game and now they can't get rid of him.

RAMBOSK all the way.

#30 Posted by nobadhaircuts on July 22, 2008 at 8:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ummm, is Hunter going to have Rambosk charged?

Title V JUDICIAL BRANCH
Chapter 30 SHERIFFS
30.46 Sheriffs; motor vehicles color combination; badges; simulation prohibited; penalties.--

(1) The color combination of forest green and white is adopted as the official color for use on the motor vehicles and motorcycles used by the various sheriffs of Florida and their deputies.

(2) For purposes of uniformity and in aid of the recognition of their official identity by the public, a badge in the shape of a five-pointed star with a replica of the great seal of Florida with the map of Florida superimposed thereon inscribed in the center is designated as the official badge to be worn by the sheriffs and deputy sheriffs of all counties of the state.

(3) It shall be unlawful for any person other than the sheriffs of Florida and their deputies, to color or cause to be colored any motor vehicle or motorcycle the same or similar color combination prescribed herein; provided, however, that any municipal police department or other law enforcement agency or any private person or concern using the same or similar color combination as of the date of this act shall be permitted to continue to use such colors until such time as new colors are adopted by such agencies, or private person or concern.

(4) It shall be unlawful for any person other than sheriffs and deputy sheriffs to wear an official sheriff's badge as prescribed herein, or to wear a badge or insignia of such similarity to the official sheriff's badge as to be indistinguishable therefrom at a distance of 20 feet; provided, nothing therein shall be construed to prevent members of any military, fraternal, or similar organization or any other law enforcement officer from wearing any insignia officially adopted or worn prior to the effective date of this section.

(5) Violation of any of the provisions of this act shall be a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

History.--ss. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ch. 57-3; s. 13, ch. 71-136.

#31 Posted by mothernature on July 22, 2008 at 8:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Victor,

Amerivest Realty would like their logo back.

You have offended ALL Republicans.

Good bye.

#32 Posted by cardshark8 on July 22, 2008 at 8:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

#28 Vetres: Whats up with Ortino making all the disparaging remarks about his own party? Didnt he say something awful about them at the party they had at their HQ the other day? I saw that in the paper and now this.

Rambosk for Sheriff---no contest.

#33 Posted by nobadhaircuts on July 22, 2008 at 8:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I would ask ALL Republicans to denounce Mr. Ortino as a candidate.

I was not very interested in the Sheriff's race to begin with, but now I am motivated to have Mr. Ortino, who apparently sways with the political wind in front of Democrats, outed as what he is. He is a political hack not worthy of being on the ballot.

#34 Posted by iamrepublican on July 22, 2008 at 8:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

mothernature, read #4 and you should have your question answered. 20 feet, etc. Size is not in comparison to any issued Florida Sheriff's badge. I believe the non-profit, Florida Sheriff's Association gives the pins out, when I joined I received one.

Your concern should be, will the State charge Victor now since money was the only issue back in the mid 80's. See article at colliercitizens4integrity.org. Crimes committed while employed as a law enforcement officer usually have no limitation.

#35 Posted by Vetres73 on July 22, 2008 at 8:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It appears as the cops got to work this morning & are busy on their CCSO issued computers. Doubt they are sitting at home for the times are too close. Probably all sitting up their in their ivory tower. Afraid that if their is change & someone other than Rambosk gets in some of their dirty little secrets might come out.

#36 Posted by diamondgrl on July 22, 2008 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have one of those stars from the Fl Sheriffs Association. They sent it to me when I supported the programs they run for helping kids. Glad to see Kevin supports kids and cares enough to invest his time and resources in our children.

I guess Ortino doesnt unless he is making money off them at his karate business.

#37 Posted by grillerdad on July 22, 2008 at 8:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Also, if you look at Rambosk's resume, it appears, and I stress appears, at least one time, possibly two times, he has been out of law enforcement for a period of four years or more. I wonder if he went through proper protocol to be reinstated? I'm sure his jacket would show it?
Here is the information straight from FDLE's Web site. (It wouldn't let me post it all, so here's the link...http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/cj.... I also cut out the out-of-state info).

Officer Requirements
equivalency
The Equivalency of Training (EOT) process is for Out-of-State Federal Officers and or previously certified Florida officers with a four year or more break-in-service pursuant to section 943.131(2), Florida Statutes and Florida Administrative Code (F.A.C.) 11B-35.009(4)(5).

The EOT is an avenue by which an officer can request an exemption from the full academy.

You may be eligible for an exemption from the full basic training requirements if you were an officer in another state or with the federal government and meet the following requirements:
(1) you worked at least one year, full-time as a sworn officer in the discipline you are seeking exemption;

(2) you received training in that discipline which is comparable to Florida's full basic curriculum and/or;

(3) you were previously certified in Florida.

There can be no more than an 8 year break in employment has an officer, which is measured from the separation date of the most recent qualifying employment to the time a complete application CJSTC-76 is submitted for exemption.

In order to become a certified officer in Florida, you will need to demonstrate proficiency in the high liability areas and pass the state certification exam in the same discipline within 1 year of receipt of the approved CJSTC-76Equivalency of Training form.

#38 Posted by mothernature on July 22, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

its not nice to fool mother nature ...unless mothernature is a fool

#39 Posted by muthernature on July 22, 2008 at 8:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Does anyone know why Rambosk wants to be Sheriff after 30 years in govt.?

Would he be eligible to get retirement plus his salary?

#40 Posted by reasonableguy on July 22, 2008 at 8:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mudslinging from CCSO's current deputies?? No way.

All the officers are much to secure and classy to have to resort to mudslinging, name calling, and derogatory comments.

Certainly they wouldn't campaign the same way they police the community.

#41 Posted by myrealname on July 22, 2008 at 8:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dedication to public service and our community reason guy. I think his incredible experience is with a few different (and progressivley larger) departments so not sure on the retirements.

The way I look at it though, he earned his benefits legally and legitimately so if he is entitled he gets them. Tax payers have to pay benefits either way and have to pay a salary to the Sheriff either way so it doesnt cost us anything extra.

We are so fortunate to have Rambosk's knowledge, skills and experience here in Collier County.

#42 Posted by grillerdad on July 22, 2008 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Victor, it's over.

Three days ago, you told me that it was too hard for you anymore. You said Kevin Rambosk was a great guy with a great message and a great strategy. I know, it's hard to let your wife down. She failed as a school board candidate and she failed in other jobs. Now you're failing. I wish you the best. You're just not cut out for law enforcement or politics.

I wish you the best at your dance studio.

#43 Posted by cardshark8 on July 22, 2008 at 9:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Did I really read that one of Ortino's supporters referred to Mr. Rambosk as Osama Bin Laden?

This is way too sick for me to comment even further. What a rude and completely biased comment that WE all should be disgusted about. So this is how some Collier person looks at the free election process in the USA.

#44 Posted by MarcoRobert on July 22, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

By reading these blogs it appears to me that the Ortino supporters are worried & grasping at straws, as they should be worried!! Ortino doesn't compare to Kevin Rambosk nor measure up!!
You should dig up the skeletons in Ortino's closet, you wouldn't have to dig to far.
Kevin is honest & straight up. He has nothing to hide.

GO KEVIN!!

#45 Posted by MrMeToo on July 22, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mr. Rambosk admits red-light camera studies do in fact show an increase of accidents at intersections when they're initially installed. He then states the accidents decrease as the public becomes aware of their presence. My question -- Mr. Rambosk, please reveal which Collier County citizens will pay the "butchers bill" as accident victims, while we wait for things to get better at red-light camera intersections as you promise.
There are some things government doesn't knowingly implement when the initial price is too costly for its citizens. Please don't treat the citizens as crash dummies in order to fulfill your political agenda.

#46 Posted by sunnydaze on July 22, 2008 at 9:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Rambosk's cheerleaders last night are typical of the Collier County Sheriff's treatment of the Collier County citizens. The public politely clapped when each candidate had their say, only Rambosk's cheerleaders did not clap for either of the other candidates, but when Rambosk spoke, boy did those puppets clap and cheer. This is totally disrespectful, arrogant and rude. I went to the forum to hear all the candidates and to try and decide who would make the best sheriff. I came away totally disgusted by the actions of a few.

#47 Posted by momforjustice on July 22, 2008 at 10:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The posts by the Current regime are saying Rambosks opponents are whining about him not obeying the law.

It speaks to character. Either Rambosk does not know the law or he believes that he is above the law.

If he so blatantly disregards the rule of law do you think that he will respect your constitutional rights???

#48 Posted by SwampRat on July 22, 2008 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm a Democrat for Victor Ortino!

#49 Posted by Ironside on July 22, 2008 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I personally don't think people are grasping at straws, rather they are looking at the macro picture. A very popular sheriff in another county (first term) had little to no experience on budgetary matters, but he has made a fine sheriff who has taken control and weeded out the bad seeds, even his friends who have had problems have been forced out and downright fired. Ortino is much the same as this currently seated sheriff who has done wonders for a different county. Too bad Rambosk by his own admission cannot control crime in Collier, but has to "push" it north to another county...then, more crime comes into Collier. That's just too sad a law enforcement officer cannot get a control on crime...:(

#50 Posted by mothernature on July 22, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Me too Ironside.

The behavior and words coming out in these comments by Rambosk supporters is absolutely despicable. I have never seen such nastiness and personal attacks on ANY other story. It is a huge turn-off, and something for which the candidates should speak out against to show their integrity. I am appalled at the tactics some of these people are using - some are literally trying to intimidate people against voicing any support for any other candidate. It has got so bad that I'm sure many people would rather stay home on voting day than risk coming across this type of irrational behavior at the voting booths - I may do just that. I don't need to try to place a vote while being bullied, intimidated, or threatened by the officers that are posting here. It is illegal and unconstitutional to bully people into staying home, and it certainly goes against our civil rights.

#51 Posted by fearisfailure on July 22, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

#34 rhinestoneho,

It sounds more like the same handful of fired former CCSO employees using several screen names and posting the same nonsense, false allegations and pure fantasy. The impressive list of endorsements for Karateboy is growing and I now have a few more businesses in town that I will never patronize.

#52 Posted by youwilltapout on July 22, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

In fact, I think I will organize a group of people to travel to vote together - I would recommend that on election day, others do the same. Organize and go in groups so that you won't be as susceptible to the attacks that I anticipate will be rampant that day. After reading these comments, it is clear how emotional some people can be. Scary.

#53 Posted by fearisfailure on July 22, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just as our nation is ready for change, so is Collier County. The ways of old, politics that are practiced by Rambosk and his campaign, don't stand a chance against the wave of change that Victor Ortino will bring. His honesty and integrity is something our county hasn't seen for many years. Change is happening. Be a part of the movement for change and vote for Ortino.

Ortino for Sheriff '08!

#54 Posted by findingfish01 on July 22, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow! It is easy to see who the CCSO uppers are on these blogs, the rude, disrespectful and slanderous. Be careful Lawsuits can be filed and your IP addresses can be tracked.

#55 Posted by Citizen1007 on July 22, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

they all stink

#56 Posted by coolkraft on July 22, 2008 at 11:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

guess my 7 year old needs to turn in his jr deputy "five pointed star" badge given to him by the CCSO?

#57 Posted by rahefalu on July 22, 2008 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OK...it wasn't "Osama", it was "Obama" used with Mr. Rambosk's name. It still is in poor character.

Why does the Ortino camp make such a fuss about Mr. Rambosk's supporters. The remarks are crude, rude and biased...bordering on racist.

Is this the way Candidate Ortino wishes his supporters to act on his behalf? Are these the kind of people he will employ and thus "serve at the discretion of the Sheriff?"

Why does both the Ortino and Angiolillo camps constantly bash Sheriff Hunter? This man has done a lot of very good work over the many years that he has been ELECTED to his office. To bash a man elected in office is to bash those who voted for him. I guess that's what we have to look forward to if Ortino or Angiolillo get the job.

Kevin Rambosk is the chioce, so VOTE RAMBOSK on August 26th!

#58 Posted by MarcoRobert on July 22, 2008 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

People,

The rumor is that deputies are now considering voting for Ortino. Since Mr. Rambosk resigned as directed by the Special Counsel and threated of charges, deputies are concerned that his reputation is tarnished. Those chearleaders surrounding Rambosk are actually on the fence waiting for the tide to turn to decide which way to vote.

#59 Posted by USDfender on July 22, 2008 at 12:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Go to LEOAFFAIRS.com and see what Rambosk's people are saying. They have personally attacked and attacked with a vengeance anyone who even attempts to point out anything wrong with Rambosk.

#60 Posted by mothernature on July 22, 2008 at 12:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MarcoRobert, you're treating one post as if it was indicative of every Ortino supporter, but, if you paid close attention to this blog, and almost every other blog on this subject, the overwhelming majority of slanderous, derogatory, and rude accusations and intimidations are coming from those who support Rambosk.

It's appallingly clear that there are some real nasty people associated with Kevin Rambosk, and my guess is that they all wear little stars on their chests.

#61 Posted by myrealname on July 22, 2008 at 1:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Reasonableguy post #42. Indeed, why would a man who has given 30 years of his life to public service want to continue serving the community he has sworn to protect in the past and continue to do so into the future? The charachter of the man (Kevin Rambosk) says it all. Many work to earn a living, raising their families as best they can and that is noble. Some are compelled to serve in the Armed Forces and some are compelled to serve in Law Enforcement and EMS, and that is noble also. Kevin Rambosk has chosen the the path of Law Enforcement and EMS. Try not to find fault with service. We should embrase those who continue to lead and serve beyond mere pensions.

I will vote Kevin Rambosk as our next Sheriff

#62 Posted by concernedcolliercitizen on July 22, 2008 at 1:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If they were really concerned with the community, they would donate all that extra pay they receive on top of what, up to three pensions, two of which would be high risk? It's called double-dipping and the Legislature is trying to cure that....What about his being out of law enforcement for four years? Did Rambosk go back through the cross-over training as required by law?

#63 Posted by mothernature on July 22, 2008 at 1:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The U.S. Office of Special Counsel (OSC) has filed complaints for disciplinary action against employees for sending politically partisan e-mail messages while on duty, which is a violation of the Hatch Act,that restricts the activities of federal, state and LOCAL employees of government agencies that receive federal funds.
Scott Bloch, head of the OSC said misuse of e-mail is one of the most common ways employees run afoul of the Hatch Act.

#64 Posted by sunnydaze on July 22, 2008 at 1:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Go Dems!!!

(now where can I comment on the swimsuit gallery?)

#65 Posted by anon on July 22, 2008 at 3:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GO VINNY!

#66 Posted by SHIFTT on July 22, 2008 at 4:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is frightening to think that a Don Hunter clone could be elected. Have we not had enough intimidation, bullying, racial profiling and corruption from the current administration? Rambosk's actions show that he believes he and his deputies are indeed above the law.

It's time for a change! If there is anyone still on the fence about this election, please, please, please vote Ortino. It's about time the "little people" had a voice.

#67 Posted by Ittybitty on July 22, 2008 at 4:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

#70 Ittyditty,

Why wouldn't you want to stay with the Don Hunter clone? Look at the record.

Crime is the lowest it's ever been.
We have an up to date and futuristic Sheriff's Office, and we sure don't want to go back to cowboy boots and hats. A majority of the deputies have degrees and excellent qualifications. Deputies respond within 3-8 minutes to your call for service. I'm sticking with a sure thing while my family is safe and protected. The other two wannabe's are so out of touch with reality it isn't funny. The most QUALIFIED and INTELLIGENT man for the job is KEVIN RAMBOSK. That's who my family and friends are voting for and I suggest you do the same. We don't want to go backwards.

#68 Posted by diamondgal on July 22, 2008 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why isn't there a democratic candidate to choose from? What is this a blasted monopoly in SW Florida with the Republicans.

#69 Posted by Indyvote on July 22, 2008 at 4:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Deputies were dispatched to a disturbance at an Ortino blogger campaign party. Deputy: “What’s the problem here?” Ortino bloggers: “Rambosk barged in here, pushed us down and took our ball! WAAA!!” The Ortino supporters on this blog are a whiney bunch. “Rambosk people are threatening!” (I can’t help that you are paranoid); “The Rambosk bloggers are slanderous!” (Please Citizen, a lawsuit? Get a grip); Rambosk’s red-light cameras will cost us butcher bills!” (I don’t think it’s the camera’s fault people drive into one another); “Rambosk supporters are rude, they didn’t clap for the other candidates!” (Maybe they would if something intelligent was said. Go ahead, sue me Citizen); “Rambosk broke the law!” (If that was true, where is the arrest or Federal investigation? Oh yeah, Hunter was in violation too in 1988 – go make a case); “Rambosk can’t control crime!” (Then why is the crime rate the lowest since 1977? And because of the attention the dedicated deputies pay to known bad guys - they leave the county, that’s why Mothernature, now go plant some daisies on Vic’s campaign.); “Rambosk uses a star in his campaign and pictures of himself in uniform!” (Um, yeah, he’s running for Sheriff and was employed there. No law violations – just sour grapes). Although I respect the fact that they all support their candidate, they can dish it out, but can’t take it in return. The constant lies put on these blogs by Toesmom (Who has never once been able to provide one fact to back up any of her claims.) and Coyote are nothing but smoke to try and sway the uninformed and conspiracy theorists to their side. Simple fact is Ortino is no more qualified to run the CCSO than any of his supporters. All of you complaining about the Rambosk supporters could never be a real cop, because if you can’t handle the writings on this blog, you could never handle an enraged person screaming obscenities in your face, and worse. Hopefully this is not indicative of how Ortino behaves.

#70 Posted by DeDeDee on July 22, 2008 at 5:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Old Pig, again I refer you to LEOAFFAIRS.com and see who can't stand the heat..Seems like Rambosk's supporters do everything they can to call anyone else harsh names, belittle them, etc. ANYONE can go to the blog and see what I am speaking about. The blogs even have some very interesting things to say about a certain former jail captain who was forced to resign and covered up by, in part, Rambosk. Read other blogs than this one and you will see that many of your comments are mild compared to the vitriole spewed by Rambosk supporters.

#71 Posted by mothernature on July 22, 2008 at 5:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Swamprat and mothernature....read the law again, or get someone to read it to you. It does not say you can't use a star. It says you can't use a star with teh Great Seal of the State of Florida and the map of Florida imposed on it. Look at every county in Florida and you will see stars and even badges on signs.

Reasonableguy...you are right. Rambosk does have enough money to retire. That makes me realize that he is not interested in the job for the money. He's in for the right reasons.

Fearisfailure...Judging by your post and your screen name, you're already a failure. If you are afraid to go to the polls because you think you will be threatened. Don't worry, the poll workers will protect you. The mean ole people won't even know who you vote for. Sounds to me like you are already making excuses for when Rambosk wins, sniff, sniff...I was afraid to go vote. But hey, great idea to carpool, all of VO supporters can ride together in one car.

Citizen1007...I think you have tried to scare people before with your empty threats about lawsuits and tracing IP addresses. Ever hear of freedom of speech and freedom of the press? NDN is not going to give up IP address info without a court order and even then, a heck of a fight.

rahefalu...You said it all. You said that you are lucky enough that you don't have to care about who is elected sheriff. The reason for that is because Collier County is a safe county and we don't have to worry about crime.

A lot of people calling for change hold grudges because they or a family members were arrested or fired by the S.O. You just see the same old names over and over. That shows it's personal, not just everyday people concerned about their county. They keep saying they know people, they talk to deputies, they have evidence, blah blah blah. Any evidence would have been front page news by now.

#72 Posted by native1457 on July 22, 2008 at 6:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mother, I too have read those blogs. If you take the time and read them all you will see that many of the "interesting" comments are made by Ortino supporters. It is not one-sided. I urge you to read all of the blogs written by an Ortino supporter who uses the screen name AngelAngel. This fine, upstanding citizen makes some foul accusations too distasteful for me to comment further upon. Not one Rambosk supporter goes that low.

#73 Posted by DeDeDee on July 22, 2008 at 6:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rambosk = Massive experience, doing it for purpose.

Vinny + Vic = wanna be's reaching for the salary.

#74 Posted by shwing on July 22, 2008 at 6:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oldpig & native - well said and how truthful.

Word coming out of the Ortino camp is some have become disgusted with Victor because he realizes it's over. It's only Mrs. Ortino that is keeping him from throwing in the towel.

By the way, where are all these former disgruntled deputies who so idolized Vic? How come they never show their faces at any of the debates or forums? We thought you all supported him but we see that you would rather hide behind blogs than be men & women and show your faces in public.

Mrs. Ortino, give Victor the towel (not to wipe his sweaty head with but to throw in)...... While you're at it, pick him up a map of the United States since he doesn't seem to know the difference between a state and a city.

#75 Posted by lawyerboy on July 22, 2008 at 7 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Native, please don't mistake what I posted with me saying the star is not proper. I have NOT seen the star worn by Rambosk as I missed the debate. I just posted the law surrounding who can and cannot wear the star for those who wanted to read it and make their own decision about what is legal and what is not legal.

Old Pig, I have read what angelangel has posted and seems to me that person has a grasp on some information. While not everyone agrees with what everyone says, sometimes, as in the case of angelangel, people have a tendency to twist people's words to make it say something that the person did not mean. Just as Native thought I was making a decision on Rambosk's star being illegal. I don't recall every saying that. I just simply posted the information. So, please folks, take everything every one says with a grain of salt and look at documentation. Don't believe everything you read or hear. Just make an informed decision no matter who you vote for...don't take other people's word, as those words are sometimes taken out of context or skewered to mean what the person repeating them wants them to say.

#76 Posted by mothernature on July 22, 2008 at 8:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mother, maybe you missed the post where angel states Rambosk is responsible for a recent, tragic death. That is a grasp on evil idiocy.

#77 Posted by DeDeDee on July 22, 2008 at 8:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The continuous bashing of deputies is unwarranted. These people answer our calls every day, they work 24/7 to keep the community safe. They put their lives on the line daily for our safety. To say they are not doing their job is ignorant. Debate is great and appropriate among the candidates as long as it is based on fact and differences of opinion on how operations should run, not on the backs of deputies. I was at the debate as well. I saw Rambosk supporters standing so others could sit. I saw Rambosk supporters shake Vic's hand, smile and even wish him luck. I agree deputies should be professional at all times, but how they are treated is important as well. Not one Ortino supporter has made a positive comment regarding deputies, sad because who do you think the CCSO is?

Rambosk, educated, experienced and respected among law enforcement, fire and EMS!

#78 Posted by Vetres73 on July 22, 2008 at 8:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mothernature...you said you only posted the law so people could read it and make their own decision...so are you saying that you didn't add the "Ummm, is Hunter going to have Rambosk charged?"
Then you ask if Rambosk went through the proper
protocol to be reinstated. FDLE certifies officers in this state. Do you think they are idiots and just reinstate people without making sure they are qualified.
You know, I just want the most qualified person running the agency that is responsible for protecting my family and property. You learn a lot from these blogs. I don't take anything as fact but just from the posts I can say for sure that Mr. Ortino has some idiots supporting him and they are doing him more harm than good. You are just throwing out stupid remarks, accusations, misinformation and down right lies.

Mr. Ortino, if you read these blogs, you must see that even if you were elected, you could never have the respect of the agency or most of the county just based on things your supporters are saying about the members of the CCSO. Especially the one blaming Mr. Rambosk and the CCSO for the tragedy in Ft Myers.
If Rambosk is responsible for the words and actions of his supporters then you too are responsible for yours.

#79 Posted by native1457 on July 22, 2008 at 9:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Politicians often make claims that can't be fact checked. This is not the case in the Sheriff's race. Go to www.colliercitizens4integrity.org for the truth behind the sheriff's candidates.

#80 Posted by Jama on July 22, 2008 at 9:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This website is bought & paid for by cleverly disguised Rambosk campaign funds, nothing is "fact checked," it's just the same old gossip and half-truths that are posted in the above blogs. Just because you put gossip on a website, does not make it "fact-checked."

#81 Posted by cardshark9 on July 22, 2008 at 10:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Its not nice to fool Mother Nature.....unless mothernature is a fool

#82 Posted by muthernature on July 22, 2008 at 11:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

cardshark9 you are totally correct, the facts listed by Jama under the www.colliercitizens4integrity.org are incorrect and removal has been requested . Let there be no mistake nonfactual information spread around the web that is a misrepresentation will be deal with accordingly.
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#83 Posted by VINNYforsheriff on July 22, 2008 at 11:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

so whats not true about Vinny? That his "hobby" really isnt about caring for the community? That he didn't really graduate from high school? I KNEW IT!

#84 Posted by naplesalsa on July 23, 2008 at 12:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For the truth about the Sheriff's candidates, go to www.colliercitizens4integrity and see the actual public record documents and newspaper articles that support or refute the candidates' claims. The proof is undeniable.

#85 Posted by Jama on July 23, 2008 at 12:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For the truth about the Sheriff's candidates, go to www.colliercitizens4integrity.org and see the actual public record documents and newspaper articles that support or refute the candidates' claims. The proof is undeniable.

#86 Posted by Jama on July 23, 2008 at 12:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Trying to muzzle the truth is never successful. The information on www.citizens4integrity.org links to public record sites or scanned public records. If you can't debate or refute the facts, you can always try and make sure no one ever hears them.

#87 Posted by Jama on July 23, 2008 at 12:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Cardshark9, The website was registered for about 70 dollars and was created for free by a couple of people who just want the absolute unquestionable truth to reach those who need it. You can make all of the false claims that you want, but that won't change the facts. Pick one of the FACTS listed on the website, and let's debate it. I can prove everything on the site with unquestionable records.
I'm waiting for you to identify one of the issues that is false. I'm still waiting, waiting, waiting...

#88 Posted by Jama on July 23, 2008 at 12:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

my browser says that website doesn't even exist

#89 Posted by stopthebs on July 23, 2008 at 12:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's still there stopthebs. I just checked. Make sure you t