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State starting over in potential leasing of Alligator Alley

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This is more than a momentary delay.

When state transportation officials canceled a meeting last week to review documents submitted by firms interested in leasing Alligator Alley, it seemed that perhaps the process would be postponed by a week or two.

Florida Department of Transportation staffers now say the state will start the process over for amassing interest in Alligator Alley, issuing a new request for qualifications, the first step in the process to lease the 78-mile toll road to a private interest.

Kevin Thibault, assistant secretary of engineering and operations for DOT, said the new request would be issued this week, nearly two months after the first request for qualifications, or RFQ, was made.

“We decided to start it over,” Thibault said. “It’s best to start it off clean.”

Thibault said the decision has nothing to do with the number of responses received — eight teams submitted statements — and it isn’t about the slew of opposition voiced by Southwest Florida residents and legislators.

Collier County commissioners became the latest to hop on the anti-lease bandwagon Tuesday when the five-member governing body unanimously passed a resolution opposing the lease. They join the Naples City Council and the Lee and Collier County Metropolitan Planning Organizations, all of which have issued similar resolutions in the past month.

Collier Commissioner Jim Coletta said the recent delay does nothing to change the commission’s stance on the lease.

“I don’t think anything’s changed,” Coletta said. “They’re still putting it out to bid.”

Thibault said the state simply wants more information for the DOT Technical Expert Panel to evaluate the proposing firms fairly. He said the original request issued in May asked the necessary questions, but in some instances failed to clarify requirements thoroughly enough.

The decision to start from scratch, he said, is part of a good-faith effort to keep the process open.

“We have no idea (if that’s true),” Commissioner Donna Fiala said, “because they are keeping everything secret.”

The first statements of qualifications submitted by the eight teams haven’t yet been released publicly, although a records request for the documents by the Naples Daily News is in the process of being filled, DOT Communications Director Dick Kane said.

A short list of proposing teams was due to be released by June 30, with a request for proposals to be issued soon after. That date will be pushed back now as the state reissues the request for qualifications.

Florida is a newcomer to the concept of leasing an existing toll road, so models for developing the original request for qualifications had to be derived from the state’s public-private partnership ventures in building roads, Thibault said.

“There is no model before that,” Thibault said. “We used a couple of procurements we’ve done, like with the I-595 as a kind of example of how we would do some pre-qualification analysis. That (project) is going to build something, but this one is not doing that. This one is truly unique in that there is no construction element.”

Thibault said the new request would allow the same eight teams to reformulate their statements of qualifications, but also would open the door for new firms to lay claim to the alley. He said some firms missed the June 3 deadline on the first go-around, and might be able to submit a statement in response to the new request.

He declined to lay out the new timetable for the concession process, saying it would depend on when the new request is issued. The original request for qualifications was issued the week of May 5, and the deadline fell one month later.

This newest development for a delay could put the whole schedule off by two months or more, pushing out DOT’s initial prediction that a concession team would be named in October.

“I would have personally thought that maybe an addendum to the RFQ would have worked,” said Tony Garrastazu, who runs the Miami office of Global Via Infrastructure, a firm based in Spain that is bidding on the alley. “Obviously we will work with what they give us ... but it’s a lot of work and a lot of time.”

Garrastazu said he has heard of similar delays, and though it is frustrating for a firm like his, as a Florida taxpayer he understands the need to proceed with caution.

“They want to make sure they do this the correct way, which I think they need to and they should, because this is a state asset,” Garrastazu said.

But for some watching the lease in Collier County, it would seem the most cautious way to proceed is not at all.

“The fact that they are not stopping, that’s what’s alarming,” Fiala said Tuesday during a break in the commission meeting. “They’re not listening to what anyone’s saying.”

Gina Downs, a board member of the Citizens Transportation Coalition of Collier County, said she thinks the delay may indicate that the state is listening — to Pennsylvania.

The Pennsylvania House of Representatives voted 185-12 last week to defeat an amendment that would have authorized the lease of the Pennsylvania Turnpike. The $12.8 billion bid by a consortium of Citi Infrastructure Investors and the Spain-based firm Abertis Infraestructuras SA has since been extended by 30 days while the Pennsylvania Legislature sorts through the deal.

“What they’re learning from the Pennsylvania Turnpike is that they need to do a hard sell on this,” Downs said. “Now, the governor will go all over the state and do the brainwashing he needs to do to make this deal.”

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Wow, crappy crist is really going to run this up our rear no matter how much we don't want it. The State has forgotten who works for whom. Anybody got any ideas how to stop it?

#1 Posted by judicious on June 24, 2008 at 10:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Trade it to Big Sugar for their 186,000 acres.

#2 Posted by swamp4u2 on June 24, 2008 at 10:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

outsource the state of florida government

#3 Posted by coolkraft on June 24, 2008 at 10:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

“We have no idea (if that’s true),” Commissioner Donna Fiala said, “because they are keeping everything secret.”

“They’re not listening to what anyone’s saying.”

From the mouths of babes!.....................
Who would have thought government could get so out of hand. My My My

#4 Posted by Watchdog on June 25, 2008 at 5:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is time to vote out all encumbents!!!

We need a government of the people for the people!!!

#5 Posted by RainMan on June 25, 2008 at 6:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It maybe isn't, but it ought to be "about the slew of opposition voiced by Southwest Florida residents and legislators."

And whatever is discussed in secret certainly is not done in good faith.

The state is letting us down in so many irresponsible ways, first by cutting taxes so much that it cannot fund schools or roads.

Second, by abdicating its democratic responsibility to represent the people.

The Florida Department of Transportation has become so arrogant that they have forgotten that they are the tail, not the dog.

Once we find out who the state is selling it to, Arabs or Spaniards or whoever, we should make the buyer rue the day. And the Tallahassee state employees, from Crist on down, should be expelled. If we're so strapped that we cannot pay school custodians and have to outsource the Alley, where did they get all the money from to buy out Florida Sugar?

I'd say they've broken faith.

#6 Posted by Rosalind on June 25, 2008 at 7:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What a surprise! Actually, as transparent as the scheme is shallow. Looks like Charlie's minons finally caught on to the political damage this was doing to his VP aspirations -- if there is anything left to salvage. I'm sure the plan is to bring this scam back after the election.

So if the opposition groups are smart, and I know at least one of them is, then this is actually good news. They've been seeking some law school classes to take this on as a project -- and this isn't a good time to find assembled masses of budding lawyers anxious to score a big one even before passing the bar.

This is every law student's dream, and the sale of Alligator Alley, a road with no safe alternatives for those lacking the funds to pay excessive tolls, is prime for dissection, innovation, and hopefully court action. If nothing else, the effort will help feed a political firestorm that will send the Tallahassee crowd scurrying for cover. It's a rare political issue that has so much appeal across party lines.

So while the bureaucrats are undoubtedly high-fivin' one another at having once again pulled a fast one on the stupid public -- this highly predictable 'delay' is actually a gift from heaven for those who live to see this relegated to the dustbin of the 10 worst ideas of the century.

#7 Posted by bsdetector on June 25, 2008 at 8:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

They cannot even get the proposals right, can you imagine how this will be when they try to run the road?????

#8 Posted by fortl123 on June 25, 2008 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

#9 Posted by GoneFishin on June 25, 2008 at 9:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's our fault. We vote for politicians who tout "less government" and this is what we get.

Thrown in the mix are massive deregulation and tax cuts, failing infrastructure, insurance gouging, unbalanced health care, unregulated utilities and energy trading, tainted food, deadly and cost inflated pharmaceuticals, substandard education (FL is last in funding and scoring - Mississippi used to hold that position, how embarrassing for the fourth most populated state), corporate mergers eliminating competition and many more.

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty".
Thomas Jefferson

#10 Posted by 1nParadise on June 25, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What's to study?

You own something.

To make money you lease it out for a profit.

But you need to use it so you rent it back at a profit for the person or group who you leased it to.

IT IS COMMON SENSE! Any person with any experience in earning and spending money can see this is a bad idea financially.

But lets face it money is power. And the "system" (re: gub'mint) is much happier with us having less and them having more.

Heck they are jacking around with oil prices so much that soon we won't even be able to afford the courtesy of lube before yelling "BOHICA!!" (Bend Over Here It Comes Again) when the system sticks it to us as usual.

Here's a good one. Where the f**k are all of those "Civil Rights" advocates now? The ones that ALWAYS pop up and claim they are doing good for all people?

You can bet that if this affected primarily a specific group of minorities that La Raza or Jackson or Sharpton would be out making speeches and smoozing the camera's right now. But since this affects all people equally, and might actually unite us for a while (the people against the government), it must not be worth their time.

Here you have a person in government saying point blank that regardless of what the people think they are going ahead anyway and not one of those groups seems to feel anyones civil rights are being violated?

If the Alley is such a money loser for us then why not just raise the toll by $0.25 per vehicle?

DOT and the other groups ARE listening to people just not the ones who actually paid for the building and maintaining of the Alley.

#11 Posted by Neal on June 25, 2008 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If this goes thru,,, why cant we Demand, that our local yes men< <gub'mint,good name Neal,,>>,install Warning Signs at the SR 951 exit,detouring traffic to the Tamiami Trail,a "Toll Free" road,,theres other ways to the East coast,that are all toll free too,,,the starting toll is $10.00 ?? and it Will go up,,,also theres several chemicals that eat the heck out of blacktop,,i wonder just how bad the "winner" will want it ,once its covered in potholes, and paying out Millions in claims, and eventually leasing an 80 mile pothole? what do you call a foreign owned country? """"BOHICA!!" (Bend Over Here It Comes Again)""" i hope ya dont mind me borrowing these parts of your post Neal,,,,,,

#12 Posted by Bullbat on June 25, 2008 at 6:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"...will start the process over for amassing interest in Alligator Alley". i'm believing that the opposition to this has uped the bid.

#13 Posted by mimibuck on June 25, 2008 at 8:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Help yourself Bullbat. I learned the "BOHICA" from my wife and stole it from her anyways.

#14 Posted by Neal on June 26, 2008 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lolo, thanks neal,and thank your wife for me, thats a perfect description for all stages of g'ment,,,lol,,,,

#15 Posted by Bullbat on June 26, 2008 at 3:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)



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