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Deputy suspended after Black Friday shopper accuses him of using uniform to cut line

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An early morning Black Friday shopping trip ended with a two-day suspension for a Collier County sheriff’s deputy after a customer who had been in line outside the store for 10 hours reported the deputy used his uniform to cut to the front.

Sgt. Robert Tompkins, a corrections deputy at the Naples Jail Center, finished his shift about 4:30 a.m. Nov. 23 and went to Circuit City, 5052 Airport-Pulling Road, to pick up a camera he had purchased online, according to an internal investigation.

When Tompkins arrived about 15 minutes later in uniform, he said he was “baffled” when he saw a line of about 1,000 people lined up outside. As Tompkins approached the line from the left, Shaun Kilroy, a customer who had been waiting in the line for more than 10 hours, asked for his assistance.

Kilroy had already called law enforcement for help with people butting in line, reports said.

“I tried to explain to him ... I wasn’t there for him and, you know, I’m not a law enforcement officer,” Tompkins said during an internal interview. “I was not, you know, um, portraying myself to be, other than being in uniform. I was a corrections deputy.”

Another deputy, Sgt. Joseph M. Ellis, eventually arrived to handle the crowd.

When the doors opened at 5 a.m., Tompkins, who had positioned himself near the door, joined in the line and entered.

“It turns out this other officer actually just jumped in front of everyone, using his officer status to get to the front of the line,” Kilroy wrote in a complaint.

Tompkins told investigators that nobody had a problem with him being there, and, in fact, welcomed him. He said he was tired after working a full shift on Thanksgiving, and just wanted to get in and out before heading home.

“I never went there with the intention of, you know, doing anything wrong ... I was never rude to this gentleman and, um, I would have assisted him more had he not walked away,” Tompkins said. “I would have contacted dispatch, you know, to help him out, but he walked away and never provided me that opportunity. That’s about all I got.”

Tompkins left the store with the camera and a television, reports said.

In January, Tompkins was found guilty of violating Sheriff’s Office rules or disregarding proper community customs or ethics. He was suspended for two days, placed on 12 months of probation, and given a letter of reprimand and a final warning, reports said.

Kilroy also filed a complaint against Ellis, claiming that Ellis berated people in line, and called the people that had been there for hours “immature.” Ellis was exonerated.

In 2005 Tompkins received a letter of reprimand after an investigation revealed he pushed a disabled inmate during an argument.

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You misspelled akuses.............

#1 Posted by Paradise on May 7, 2008 at 8:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mr. Kilroy must be the biggest baby in the county. I can not believe that the IA Division of CCSO has nothing better to do than entertain this baby's complaint. How does IA know that MR. Baby was in fact there for 10 hours. I guess Mr. Kilroy a.k.a. momma's boy would call the SO if a guy cut in front of him in a restroom in order to get to an urinal.

I know that CCSO'S IA Department has a long history of going after the deputies for frivolous complaints, but this is ridiculous even for them.

I realize that when they are not busy trying to set-up or frabricate NPD or CCSO LEO'S they have nothing to do, but this is an all time low.

#2 Posted by info on May 7, 2008 at 8:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Our society has lost all common sense. Any complaint is entertained, any comment taken out of context, and blame anyone other than yourself for your own shortcomings.

I believe that if I were the deputy I would have told the IA Investigators to prove the allegation. What a bunch of B.S.

#3 Posted by info on May 7, 2008 at 8:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There seeems to be a lack of real men left in our society. I am glad Mr. Kilroy was not of legal age when World WAR II broke out. If we had depended on men like him we would all be speeking either German or Japenese right know.

CCSO Dispatch Recording: Is this the Sheriff's Office? Well I want to report that a guy just got the last bottle of fre breeeze from the shelf at Publix.

I was going to use that to spray my underwear. Will you send a deputy please. I want him arrested. My name? It's me Mr. Baby I mean Kilroy. THANKS.

#4 Posted by info on May 7, 2008 at 8:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I wish all of the LEO's in the whole entire county would go on strike for two or three weeks. I mean just the ones that are on the road or work in the jails. Leaving top end administration, IA investigators, and any general kissa** to answer all calls and tend to all prisioners.

What a dream. Just a dream. What fun that would be. Back to the good ole days evereyone fending for themselves.

#5 Posted by info on May 7, 2008 at 9:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A lack of real men??? How about a lack of ethics? How many of those people were waiting in line for 10 hours after they worked a full shift??? ...and yes, he is SO, read NBC-2's coverage.

#6 Posted by Timberloin on May 7, 2008 at 9:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We all know that its election year and all complaints will be handled and more deputies will make the news. I wonder if I file a complaint against the sheriff or kevin rambosk, will both get 2 days off without pay, a letter in their file, 12 months probation and a final warning (don't do it again during this election year)?

#7 Posted by USDfender on May 7, 2008 at 9:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

They bust a Sgt for an e-mail and take money away from him and they give this Sgt just 2 days off and a little letter in his file for nearly causing a disturbance.

#8 Posted by fishman on May 7, 2008 at 9:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good heavens, Kilroy AKA Kiljoy was out of line in my book.
We were up at Coconut Point a while back and we went to a little Mexican restaurant chain to have a bite to eat. A Lee county deputy walked in just after us. He was in uniform. We asked him to go ahead of us. Why? Well why not. These people (those who work in law enforcement) put their lives on the line for us everyday. So if they get a break by going ahead so they can eat, go home earlier, etc.: Great!

Kilroy is a short sighted person.

#9 Posted by BlueTonguedVole on May 7, 2008 at 9:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have to agree with info, a tired jail employee after a long shift at the stockade deserves to go to the front of a ten hour line wait and we should be lucky to have such a public servant. Though, maybe info is wrong about Kilroy. Perhaps because there are people like Kilroy, we do speak English instead of Japanese or German. Personally, I admire someone who complains against a wrong. Complaints come in all forms, verbal and physical. Who knows, maybe Kilroy was being polite by being verbal instead punching out the lights of the arrogant jail guard.

#10 Posted by PuffyStormClouds on May 7, 2008 at 9:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So you want it both ways, eh? Eat a grape at Publix and the police take action, flashing a gun and badge at an old lady, but we are supposed to look the other way when a uniformed officer pulls this?

#11 Posted by mattmaki on May 7, 2008 at 10:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why is this only made public 6 months later.Still upset about not getting a Wii?
You black friday shoppers need to get a life.

#12 Posted by swampbuggy on May 7, 2008 at 10:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The firemen put there lives on the line too! So do the nurses who work with aid patients everyday. Stop making excuses.

#13 Posted by MONKABOY on May 7, 2008 at 11:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Info- Should we bow and kiss his feet when he walks our way?

#14 Posted by Jadip811 on May 7, 2008 at 11:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Who cares if this other guy had been waiting for 10 hours in line or not, on Black Friday it does sound believable. Even if he had been waiting in line for 30 seconds, this "deputy" had already bought his merchandise online, so it should be in the store. I am tired of the Collier County Sheriff's deputies, not all but most (I know there are good ones still out there, but they are few and far between), thinking they are above the law. Showing up after a shift to buy something, especially in uniform, you have got to be kidding me. This is premeditated, no doubt in my mind. You want to go pick up your merchandise on the busiest shopping day of the year? O, of course he would show up in his uniform hoping to get special privileges.

#15 Posted by napleska7 on May 7, 2008 at 11:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Honestly, is this really important?

#16 Posted by leftubehind on May 7, 2008 at 11:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So info irregardless of how many people were there, or how long they waited a cop gets preferrential treatment, perks, and courtesies?
Thats fine, but since cops get put on YOUR special treatment list you have to include firefighters, EMS and doctors right? I mean obviously they are all more important then the rest of us common folk right? They deserve to not have to wait for anything ever,correct?
And since your pecking order is about important people how about judges and lawyers, all the way down to the feeble handicapped patrons that may have been standing in line for hours as well.
They matter not compared to the tired jail tech that just got off duty huh? They aren't important. The elderly are weak right? The old are infirm and deserve to be last, huh?
Since it is a free for all with no sense of order , why not just open up the doors at 5am and have a stampede? Who needs lines? Who needs order right? Let's have a mad rush for the ultimate gift you promised your spoiled child right? If you fall or are injured you must've be weak and deserved it huh? If your trampled , oh well, so be it. Such is life.
Only the strong survive right?

#17 Posted by Jadip811 on May 7, 2008 at 11:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Last time I checked, you have an option of picking your career and your hours. Poor baby got off the night shift, one he had been working for some time if he is a Sgt. (God only knows how pu$$y boy managed to get that far), and whined about waiting in line. Firefighters/EMS go running out the door if they get a call at Publix, they don't cut in line, pay for their food, then go on the call. But if they are lucky enough to not have a call drop, they wait their turn in line, patiently, and pay for their stuff. For some reason, nowadays, a good percentage of law enforcement officers think they are above the law and can get away with just about anything. They need to wake and smell and the coffee, or get a good old fashioned a$$ kicking, and jump back into reality.

#18 Posted by napleska7 on May 8, 2008 at 12:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

#9 BTV, I must say I'm a bit surprised at your response. You extended a courtesy to a cop waiting for a meal, a bit different waiting a few minutes to waiting up to 10 hours , isn't there?
I have lent on duty LEO's the same courtesy as well knowing they may not have much time before the next call. But this is a bit different I think. He was offduty, and could have waited patiently like everyone else. Seems like a minor abuse of power. What other courtesies might he possibly abuse?
Killjoy maybe a big baby, but it does seem a bit unethical for Tompkins to expect preferential treatment because he is CCSO, a CO , LEO or any peace officer.
What was the whole point of a line then?
Just crowd around the door, push, pull and jam yourself in there.Shouldn't matter right?

Do a Google search, I just looked and it seems everything from broken legs,broken toes and broken arms and trampling have occurred in Black Fridays past. But who cares about law and order right?
Lines are for wimps right?

#19 Posted by Jadip811 on May 8, 2008 at 12:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

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#20 Posted by shawshank on May 8, 2008 at 12:21 a.m.

Nothing is free anymore.
A cop receives a free meal from a restaurant, a free gift from an organization, even a free cup of coffee from the local stop and rob ( convenience store) it is anything but free.
If and when the time comes that person or organization may want special favors for their generosity to you.

That can put you in an interesting and awkward situation. Do you follow the letter of the law like your job requires? Or do you try to help someone out because you possibly feel indebted to them for their gratiousness?

That is why every dept. including CCSO attempts to abide by it's Code of Ethics.
To expect something because your in a uniform or carry certain weight and power is unethical. This is trivial but I can see where someone who had been there for several hours waiting patiently might get upset at a uniformed officer that pulls up right before the store opens and goes to the front of the line expecting to get in ahead of several other people...

#21 Posted by Jadip811 on May 8, 2008 at 12:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Again, I'm honestly asking-
IS THIS IMPORTANT???

#22 Posted by leftubehind on May 8, 2008 at 1:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If you or I jumped a line going in front of some 1000 individuals waiting for hours to gain entry into a store's sale and the CCSO was called and sent an officer I have to believe somehow we'd have been manhandled, possibly arrested on some obscure charge, perhaps tasered if we didn't jump through hoops fast enough and then tossed in jail for a day of tweo til bailed.

This corrections officer apparently thought because of his job position he didn't have to exercise common courtesy. Two days suspension is a gift.

#23 Posted by chap914 on May 8, 2008 at 1:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Apparently it's important to you 'leftbluebehind' as you have made two comments and probably read every post...

#24 Posted by mattmaki on May 8, 2008 at 1:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just typical Collier arrogance.

Why is this such a surprise to anyone?

#25 Posted by volochine on May 8, 2008 at 2:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

How much TAX $$$$$ was spent investigating and pursuing this BS ?

#26 Posted by naplestrek on May 8, 2008 at 5:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The dude "poops" just like everyone else...let him wait in line like the rest of us!

#27 Posted by techie on May 8, 2008 at 5:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

CCSO=clowns.

#28 Posted by bullhalsey on May 8, 2008 at 6:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think Kilroy deserves a few million dollars for his pain and suffering.

#29 Posted by BlackCat on May 8, 2008 at 6:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

heres some more abuse of power- these arrogant cops also go into 7-11 and hess during the night hours and "TAKE" stuff, YES they STEAL soda, and other items. Their feeling of "entitlement" has gotten so out of control to the point that the managers of these stores are sick of it but what can they do? if they get robbed (unlikely in Naples) they need a timely response. Point is, collier cops dont use turn signals. speed through traffic, steal, lie and cheat, everyday theres another in the news. they are more crooked than the crooks! something needs to be done.

#30 Posted by tax_payer on May 8, 2008 at 7:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Whats the matter Kilroy did you get your rear end handed to you on a daily basis while in high school? You filled an I.A. on Ellis cause he called the crowd immature?? Are you kidding me!!! Maybe this officer has something better to do then baby sit your sorry rear at 4 a.m.!! Unreal...can we please get a life pal. Or even better shop online next year so you don't waste anyone elses time!

#31 Posted by TheEdge on May 8, 2008 at 7:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Is this anything like turning on your patrol lights to cut through traffic and after making it trough traffic the patrol lights are turned off?

#32 Posted by Beachbum101 on May 8, 2008 at 7:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

solution- offer a special time when the store(s) cator to police, firemen, nurses, etc. only!

#33 Posted by biomanogt on May 8, 2008 at 8:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey redsparkler

If you think ALL the cops are this way maybe you should hook up with "VINNY" and be his Undersheriff if he wins...you guys could be like Cpt. Harris and Proctor from the Police Acadamy movie! Don't call every cop out in the county for being corrupt..thats crap..plenty of great people do the job they are supposed to everyday..like protecting you and your property. Are some dummies cops? some are...so are some teachers, firefighters, and other people...welcome to real world pal...it's a fun ride!

#34 Posted by TheEdge on May 8, 2008 at 8:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Next year the business should hire a drill sergeant or a pre-school teacher with a whistle (for crowd control). I googled "line cutter". It appears that this is not a criminal act but one that merits missing recess and writing sentences on the blackboard. Additionally, I looked up chronic complainer. I was shocked to say the least when I discovered that a coloring book and a box of 64 of the latest shades from Toys R Us will help subside the need to complain. Kilroy, look in the mirror. Sometimes the very problem is your own reflection.

#35 Posted by justforU on May 8, 2008 at 8:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Be careful and do not say anything bad about Kilroy, he will tell the teacher on you.

Seriously only in Naples can you see people crying and whining about things like this. These are the very people complaining that cops have nothing better to do when they are having lunch or dinner or just a cup of coffee. These men and women work 10, 12 and sometimes 14 hour days to maintain the safety of this county and someone is going to file a complaint because he cut into line? Give me a break! I absolutely think that the deputy was wrong and should have waiting just like everyone else, but for IA to entertain this complaint or even for this to be in the news is absurd!

The most ridiculous thing about this is that grown adults have to call 911 because they can not be mature and conduct themselves properly. So much so, that someone calls the police.

#36 Posted by theoryofdisaster on May 8, 2008 at 8:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Disregarding proper community customs/ethics?? Gee,who sets those up? The city? The county? Government know it alls in marble halls? I think this guy has a thing against cops and that's all it was about.I might have called up to his place of duty (MIGHT have) but that's as far as it would have gone,for me.I've got better things to do.

#37 Posted by cowgirl on May 8, 2008 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

First of all, my time is too important to be standing in line for 10 hours to buy something that my darling child just "has to have". On Black Friday I usually go to the mall with my Starbucks to watch people make fools of themselves. Cheap entertainment :)
Second, I have given up places in line for deputies and service men, as I have a son in each. The difference is that it was my perogative.
Third, I think there are way too many people with feelings of entitlement, not just deputies. If everyone would treat people the way they would want to be treated, there wouldn't be an issue.

#38 Posted by Jetaime on May 8, 2008 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The store is at fault for creating the frenzied atmosphere.
Some intelligent managers gave out numbers to people when they arrived, and some gave coupons for certain popular items they knew would sell out quickly. Had there been a brawl, the store would surely have been named as a defendant in a negligence lawsuit.

#39 Posted by Naplestango on May 8, 2008 at 8:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What kind of fool would stand in a line for 10 hours to go to a store?

#40 Posted by Coler on May 8, 2008 at 8:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Exactly Coler, I dont care how much money I save, Im not standing in line for that long or that early!

#41 Posted by camarogrll79 on May 8, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jetaime # 38 That was funny lol makes you wonder why people are experiencing foreclosures hmm lets wait in line for electronics and not make a house payment or lets wait in line for electronics but find no time for a 2nd job to pay those payments..hmm as a matter of fact who would think to ask their child to get a job and help pay the house ( lawn mowing can put food on the table and so can washing cars for neighbors) I say give that child what it wants (Christmas shopping up those credit cards)no matter what the wait or sacrifice lol and .. sorry thats another topic.. but I did love yours Horrary for you :)Jetaime and Im not being sarcastic to you

#42 Posted by Beachbum101 on May 8, 2008 at 10:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

well said, "TheEdge" and "Jetaime"!!!! :)

#43 Posted by LEOM on May 8, 2008 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No Beachbum I did not take it that you were. And you are so right; let's all wait in a cattle call line and spend money we don't have and then when our house gets foreclosed on we can cry "Whoa is me".

#44 Posted by Jetaime on May 8, 2008 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

NAPLESKA7 YOU COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER! THERE ARE ONLY A FEW GOOD LEO LEFT ON THIS DEPT. WE NEED A BIG CHANGE AT THE CCSO. AUBREY ROGERS WAS A GREAT SHERIFF FROM YEARS AGO DOWN HERE, HE KEPT HIS MEN IN LINE AND WE DIDNT HAVE ALL THIS BULL WE HAVE NOW. I CANT SAY WOULD CALL 911 ON THE POLICE OFFICER BUT I WOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING TO HIM, THEY SEEM TO THINK BECAUSE THEY WEAR A UNIFORM THAT THEY ARE UNTOUCHABLE AND GETTING WHAT THEY WANT.THEY ALWAYS HAVE EXCUSES FOR THEY DO WRONG, SO BIG DEAL YOU WORKED A LONG SHIFT WHAT TALKING AND HANGING OUT ON THE SIDE ROADS. NOW IF IT WERE A FIREFIGHTER I WOULDVE BEEN MORE THAN HAPPY TO LET HIM GO IN FRONT OF ME, THEY WORK FOR THEIR MONEY AND PUT THEIR LIFES ON THE LINE FOR US. SONE OF THESE POLICE NEED TO TAKE LESSONS FROM THEM OR SWITCH JOBS FOR A DAY, THEN THE POLICE WILL KNOW WHAT REAL WORK IS.

#45 Posted by citygirl on May 8, 2008 at 11:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Boy, I wish I had the omnipotent powers of some of the posters here.

Unless you've hacked into the dispatch system, how do you know where a uniformed deputy or police officer is headed in their patrol vehicle? How do you know they're "speeding"? How do you know they're off-duty?

Oh, and who waits in line for 10 hours?

I don't believe cops are required to run their lights and siren every time they get a call. Often, the sight of flashing lights in the rearview just confuses some of the senior drivers in our community. I would imagine LEO's are some of the BEST drivers on our roads. So I'm happy to provide them the discretion.

For all you know, the next deputy or cop you see "speeding" or using their lights to get through an intersection may just be heading to a burglary call at your residence. And rolling up on the scene with lights flashing and sirens blaring would pretty foolish. No?

#46 Posted by AndyFlinn on May 8, 2008 at 12:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

AndyFlinn - So, the incident about a year ago where an off-duty deputy was driving a marked patrol car at over 100-mph on Collier Boulevard, and was followed home and ticketed by a sergeant driving an unmarked police car who verified that the deputy was off-duty and headed home and not responding to a call, should just be overlooked or set aside simply because the guy is a cop?

Cops speed because they can. Who's gonna pull them over, another cop? Yeah, right! They view speeding as just another perk of their job. What many of them conveniently ignore is the fact that, unless they are responding to an emergency call, they are driving a COMMERCIAL vehicle (NOT an emergency vehicle) that is subject to all of the same laws that we must obey.

Cops should lead by example, period. If they are unable or unwilling to do so, they should find another line of work.

#47 Posted by GatorHater07 on May 8, 2008 at 1:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Shopping on black Friday? Waiting in line for ten hours to save a couple bucks? LMAO! These people should have their I.Q's investigated. Maybe NDN should hang out by the blue light at Kmart to see who cuts the line for their next story.

#48 Posted by gutcheck on May 8, 2008 at 1:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey shawshank, rape isn't a subject for jokes. It's not funny.

#49 Posted by BackRoadsWine on May 8, 2008 at 2:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

People who stand in long lines on Black Friday do so to get sales that the stores are offering on the opening of business that day. As I understand the story as written, the officer was not there to buy sale merchandise, but rather to pick up merchandise already ordered online. I wouldn't expect him to wait in the long lines either.
The CCSO internal affairs investigation of this and the punishment delivered is off base and unfair. This should have been a matter of a referral to the deputy's immediate supervisor who could have counseled him in being more perceptive of the public's reactions and let it go at that. Small wonder that morale in the agency has taken a nosedive. Lost pay and 12 months probation.... give me a break. And as for Kilroy... you sir as a jerk. Self righteous hypocrit who has never done anything beyond reproach! God I hate what Naples has turned into.

#50 Posted by goneand on May 8, 2008 at 2:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

goneand, it appears he purchased a television while there, not just a pick-up of the camera.
The punishment was appropriate; all over, said and done.

#51 Posted by 676 on May 8, 2008 at 3:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If he had just gone to pick up something he previously ordered online, he should not have gone on THE BUSIEST SHOPPING DAY OF THE YEAR! Duh! He could have gone on his day off, especially after realizing there were 1,000 people in line. Gimmie a break. He used his uniform to get what he wanted. I think he should be reprimanded, but not involve IA.

As far as officers abusing power on the roads, no doubt they do, maybe not all, but most. I have a few friends who are officers and have told me they are required to use lights and sirens on a call. So when you see them speeding down the road without their lights on.... they're racing to Dunkin Doughnuts because they just ran out of doughnuts at the sub-station!!!

#52 Posted by GatorsFan on May 8, 2008 at 4 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lapse in judgment on the part of this off-duty Corrections Officer. After driving his personally owned car to the store after working his jail shift on the way home, he cut in line while wearing his jail uniform and the caller mistakenly believed that he was a police officer with arrest powers. Most Corrections Deputies are not armed, so they should be more careful about carrying out personal business where they might be perceived as a police officer and expected to deal with a law enforcement problem like the crowd.

I have seen a lot of deputies lambasted here in the NDN and have spoken as a voice of reason in some instances. Tompkins did something dumb that drew a lot of negative attention to the agency... that about sums it up. I am sure he realizes it now and will think differently about what that uniform and shoulder patch mean to the general public who don't know the difference between LE and CO and shouldn't be expected to.

I certainly don't think this was worthy of an article but it was embarrassing to the CCSD so I understand it's being written.

Not to minimize this in any way as it was a big goof up, but the bloggers coming down on the CCSD and "cops" in general need to realize that Sgt Tompkins is a jail deputy, not a police officer or a "cop".

#53 Posted by TruthHurtz on May 8, 2008 at 4:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I could care less if he was a security officer at Walmart, he knew what he was doing when he did it. Now did he think someone would call the CCSO because of it, no ( I wouldn't have either!)he probably thought he'd just get away with it.

#54 Posted by GatorsFan on May 8, 2008 at 4:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

#38 Jetaime. LOL I could not agree more, the last black Friday I slept in and didn't even want to be out on the road. I knew it was going to be a zoo at the stores and on the road. Most of the "sales" this past year were a joke. They rope you in with these early 5 and 6 am sales ads. Not worth the aggravation, stupidity,ignorance , nonsense nor broken toes to save a buck or 10 on some item I don't really need.

The year before I went to a few places, I finally just stood back and watched people make absolute fools of themselves to save a few bucks. Free entertainment is always welcome. To see Mom's ( mostly) bumping shopping carts, jogging with kid in hand to get that item on sale is priceless. Mindless babbling about the next stop they HAVE to make to get such and such items... Watching grown adults turn into mindless idiots is humorous to no end to me. Mrs. Jones or Mrs. Smith turn into into their wicked alterego when money is to be saved... ROFL Cheap entertainment...

#55 Posted by Jadip811 on May 8, 2008 at 4:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

gatorsfan,

Your friends are wrong. Police officers and deputies only use their lights and siren for emergency calls where there is a significant and obvious risk to public safety. This accounts for roughly 5% of the volume of their calls. The rest are routine calls and are generally responded to in normal driving conditions.

There are some exceptions I have been told, however. Sometimes the cops "step it up" going to a call that does not on the surface, appear to be an obvious emergency. This is based upon their ability to read the potential for a situation to escalate based on known and unknown factors.

The idea that if the cop doesn't have his lights and siren on that he isn't doing anything or going anywhere is misguided and more than a little ridiculous. The same can be said about him going to an important call where someone (you maybe) needs help.

#56 Posted by TruthHurtz on May 8, 2008 at 4:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jadip811, too funny, but you are so right. I gave it up years ago after being in line at 7am at Target (I was at the front of the line) and watching these grown women push past me running at full sprint to the electronics dept to get a Pokemon Game Boy game. I just took my sweet time walking back there and got the same damn game for my kid. It was hilarious, that was my last trip out...probably about 10 years ago. NEVER AGAIN!

#57 Posted by GatorsFan on May 8, 2008 at 4:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have friends that are officers on the force for years and they've told me the same thing that they only use their sirens and lights when on a call.

gatorsfan, too funny I would love to have seen a group of grown women sprinting down the aisle of a store for a video game, yeah, that's entertainment.

#58 Posted by NaplesCracker on May 8, 2008 at 4:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

All thoses who have said "why is this important" I want to ask how you would react if someone walked in front of you at a grocery store, or stole a parking spot out from under you while waiting for someone to back out. I know every single one of you would throw a hissy fit. Multiply that by 1000 and the officer is lucky to be alive.

#59 Posted by Tsaot on May 8, 2008 at 5:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

On one hand we have those who call this abuse and entitlement, and on the other, those who gladly and proudly give up their position in line. So, to "come to the middle" of the issue, should it be advocated that the mentioned law enforcement, military, clergy, healthcare, etc, be allowed into the "middle" of the line?

What is important, is to understand that there are diametrical positions on many issues which are themselves, unimportant. What is a waste of time is to try to convince OTHERS of what is thought to be the "correct" position. Any arguer is implying that retailers or the community needs to define rules or laws governing shopping lines at a store, and on other similar (unimportant) issues.

#60 Posted by enufenuf on May 8, 2008 at 6:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Only in Naples is cutting in line a crime.

#61 Posted by swflstickers on May 8, 2008 at 8:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok for all you "police experts" who love to continue to trash "every" deputy on here...Yes this guy screwed up but don't drag every cop into this...If your so concerned on why the cops turn lights on at the intersections, or our speeding then go to the academy and find out yourself...Did the guy going 100 driving home get smacked for it...yup...and just to get the story right, they only reason they got him was because he turned around on the "undercover news van" running radar to see if they neeeded his help..geeee if he was such a jerk why didn't he just keep going? they never would have known who it was??? Well he was punished correct? CCSO didn't ignore that ...did they? As for "most cops" Maybe they are actually trying to do there job and get to a call..doesn't always mean they have to turn on lights and sirens? Noooo couldnt be that could it? Always has to be "they are cheating the system" Half of you writing smack on her probably collect wellfare and still live at home with your mom. Rock on!

#62 Posted by TheEdge on May 8, 2008 at 10:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

zzzzzzz

#63 Posted by herrick9 on May 9, 2008 at 9:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

NaplesCracker,

There is a difference between only using your lights and siren when on a call and being on a call with or without the use of lights and siren.

The first is a given. The second can go either way. GF had the mistaken idea that if the lights and siren were not activated, then the officer was not on a call and was just driving around... which is not necessarily true.

#64 Posted by TruthHurtz on May 9, 2008 at 11:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Theedge, with all due respect , CCSO COULDN'T ignore it, not with it plastered all over the news. LOL
While it was commendable that he did actually turn around, over 100 puts himself into some serious danger. CR858/ Oilwell Rd. is a crappy road, I've stopped for an accident or three on my way to night shift. Swamp and pastureland, blink and your off the road careening through the trees and into cypress. Or into orange groves. Just seemed a bit unnecessary.
Arguing the whole lights/siren thing is pointless. I think most here are just disagreeing with the whole abuse of power of aspect. A very few cops do seem to abuse their priviledges to a degree. Given the same powers they might just do the same I would be willing to bet.
LEO is a tough job, always under scrutiny and the microscope. I think this could have been handled a bit better but this jail tech, some more common sense and common courtesy might have put this to rest.That whole do unto others philosopy. I can imagine their were other tired people just off work, maybe off duty LEO's as well.
A deputy has to abide by common sense and rules like we all do...
Use a bi

#65 Posted by Jadip811 on May 10, 2008 at 10:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)



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