rediculous.

Now, fine the hell out of Spectrum Painting!

and I bet this is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to illegals working here when legals need jobs and cant get them..these employers are to blame and should be punished

The reason illegals are hired is simple. No payroll taxes, no medicare, no workmans comp, just the lowest wage possible to get the work done.

Is our government asking us to live like an illegal, get our health care from the emergency room, and move to Mexi-hole for our retirement???

Who is Spectrum Painting?
Are they legal?
I guess Lee's Sheriff is too busy looking into Bob's Speedo, then to check out it's own mess.

Yeah, if these people don't do the job, who will? No one wants or can handle the hard labor.

Hiring Illegal Aliens 101:
(these are just a few of the examples of how employers get away with it)

#1 Hire Illegals who use bogus social security numbers that almost 9 out 10 times never get verified.

#2 Work Comp: Be it Internal Payroll systems, Employee Leasing (payroll/comp services) or other. Never verify SS#s until a WORK COMP is filed and then the victim never gets paid out.

#3 No verifications of I9s

ONLY now that GOVERNMENT is hurting financially do they actually GIVE A RATS behind.

It is not WORRY for the poor LEGAL working schlump who could really use that job.

It is for lack of GOVT revenues on TAXES that aren't being paid when they desperatly need them.

SOLUTION:
#1 FAIRTAX.oRG (A national sales tax)
#2 FORCED I-9 and SS# verficiation
#3 Absolute stiffest penalty for EMployers
-Jail time
-License revocation

Chiquita..

You may be partially right about many "Anglos" who get picky or mouth off about the type of tasks they are required to do on a job. And the fact that many Anglos in the service field have a high turn over rate.

BUT....
Does that justify FEDERAL LAWS being broken ?
And a DOUBLE STANDARD for us LEGAL folks ?

If you answer YES, then I believe you would find living in a 3rd world Banana Republic more to this ideal!

And I just heard thru the GRAPEVINE that there are about 10 pages of businesses that are on the so called HIT LIST

NDN: Follow up .. for once, please.

What happens to the 25?

What happens to Spectrum Painting?

Be true journalists for once instead of just posting headlines

This goes to show - there's no place like home. ROTFLMAO

I use to work with Spectrum. They are a large commercial painting company in Collier and Lee. It will be interesting to see what tomorrow's painting crew will look like!

chiquita, the "legal immigrants" will do the work, that's who.

Did they nab them or stumble over them?

Stop giving them jobs, healthcare and an education and they will go home.

The U.S. is becoming more and more like pre-WW2 Germany. The economy is going in the dumper and Hispanics and Moslems give the citizens a focus for their rage and bigotry. The government has almost absolute power. The concentration camps are in place, the torture is taking place.

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

Martin Niemöller

It's not like they just drive them to the border and drop them off. Now we get to house and feed them. Their families will go hungry. Spectrum is history. With no income, he'll file for bankruptcy when heavy fines are levied and we will get to absorb his losses one way or another. Now the painting won't get done. The workers are scared so they won't come; the white guys won't do it.

The answer isn't deporting them. The answer is quit making it so blasted hard for them to "do it legally" as everyone is always screaming. Let them come in, give them green cards and work permits, then tax their income like the rest of us. I know a Mexican who applied for status 11 years ago. 11 years!!

That's the true crime here.

I am tired of those who complain about legals not being able to get jobs because they are being taken by illegal immigrants. If you are competing for jobs with illegal immigrants than you have some serious problems!!!

a friend of mine hired an illegal who was a really good learner and worker and told him if he wanted to work full time he had to become legal.

Jose went to miami and bought a dead guys SSN for $50, then returned to miami to and paid off a guy in the DMV and got a valid FL drivers license,, now he's legal and working full time?

after 3 years of working full time and paying income tax on a dead guys SSN (govt doesnt care its free money for them) some how he managed to get a T.I.N. # (taxpayer identification number) and filed a tax return for the last 3 years and got a refund check for $6,500.

Jose now lives back in mexico

#16 Right. The INS are incompetent bumblers when dealing with green card applications. Even pre 9/11 it took two years for a qulified British teacher I knew who was married to a US citizen to get a work permit.

isn't Spectrum owned by Kraft Construction?

http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readart...

Chiquita,

Who built all the buildings in this country to begin with?
I know I built quite a few myself even though i'm 'Anglo' as a new born babys behind. I dug the footings, placed the concrete, layed the block, framed the roofs, installed the doors, windows, and cabinetry, painted the surfaces, landscaped the yards and everything else that was needed all while the Castro's, Vincente Fox's, Hugo Chavez's, and their kind were robbing your people blind.

Spectum Painting is/was a division of Kraft construction and has strong ties with them. Now our local authorities have some major follow ups not just on that project alone they work all over these counties.

#17 - How is it that "Jose" and others that milk the system ( not just the illegals, some white folks too) can file taxes, whether it be legally or not, and get a refund check of $6,500? I just don't get it. The most my refund has ever been was right around $600. I know someone (female) who has 3 kids, works odd nursing jobs and gets $7,000-$8,000 back each year. It baffles me.

This scenari will be normal if we don't STOP ILLEGAL BORDER JUMPERS, ASAP!!!

"A man who has severe diabetes is about to have 1 arm & 1 leg amputated and is consulting with the Dr. as to the costs. The Dr. says that his Double Amputee surgery requires the removal of 1 arm & 1 leg but, he will be a Quadruple Amputee after surgery. When the man asked why, the Dr. stated that his surgery is not covered by insurance and costs an arm & a leg to make up for FREE HEALTHCARE provided to ILLEGALS. We will take the remaining 2 limbs as payment!!!

If this happened to ILLEGALS, we wouldn't have to worry about them coming back after being deported!!!

There is no "Spectrum Painting" or any variation thereof listed with the Dept. of State as a corp, llc, or even a fictitious name out of Collier. Wonder if they're even a licensed "business" or just a gypsy operation?

Seems to me that the Sheriff's office would have done it's due diligence prior to retaining this outfit.

Should be 'scenario' above, oops.

A thorough sweep of the Collier County Complex construction site would probably uncover many more of these ILLEGAL PARASITE workers!!!

At least they didn't have to go very far to find them...

CapeCodder; Are you sure you have any idea what you're doing when you looked?

There are 7 ACTIVE companies in Florida that are "Spectrum Painting".

The specific one referenced in the story is out of Port Charlotte and it's docs are here: http://sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?...

I just went to www.sunbiz.org and found a Spectrum Contractin, Inc. registerd to a Robert D.Valentine and an officer named F. Fred Pezeshkan. Both of these gentleman are big wigs in Kraft Construction.

Kraft is the main contractor for the extention of the Collier County Courthouse building, Sheriff's Dept. buildings, etc. They have also been contracted to do the work at the Lee County Sheriff's Office.

So, Kraft Construction itself hires illegals do work for them....interesting.....very interesting.

NDN, you guys need to do some additional investigative work on this story!

Let's not make this about 1) racism or 2) yet another illegal immigration debate

Let's just see if Naples Daily News "Staff" will follow up later with the results of all of this... or if they just post these headline news articles and move on to the next. Just drama and text to fill the paper and website, but no actual JOURNALISM.

From my observation... these things just eventually roll off the site and we never hear anything more about it until the next incident happens like it again.. and the racists and illegal debaters start all over again.

How about it NDN.... any actual reporters or journalists on staff... or do you just watch the LCSO or CCSO ticker in the office and write a quickie post from it?

They Spectrum are currently working at the new Collier County Complex also. Wonder how many illegals are over there?

Sounds to me Hunter needs to do a round up at his own complex and buildings now!!!!

By JOHN OSBORNE (Contact)
Originally published 11:12 a.m., Thursday, May 15, 2008
Updated 11:12 a.m., Thursday, May 15, 2008

i wonder if NDN will let "John Osborne" leave the office, interview ANYONE and write something else... or if this is just another paper filler? is John Osborne really a human being? hello john?

hey John... lots of people would maybe like for you to step up and make a difference... or any sound at all here.......

helloooooo??? echo echo echo

Kraft Construction must be building or in the talking stages of some project for NDN!!! If not, they would be all over this!!!

Is "JOHN OSBORNE" a real human being and an employee of NDN... or did someone in an office somewhere pull a sheet of paper off of a fax machine or search the web for news and post a headline to stir the pot for the 100th time?

hello NDN... are you there? knock knock. who's there? no one but fictitionist writers posting headlines online?

any real journalists" on staff that can write? is this real?

hellooooooo?.... do you have any REAL dinosaurs on this ride?

I would like to know how this is the ONLY bust. I could give you about 30 locations where I know illegals are working. "rediculous" is right (or ridiculous).

"Lee deputies nab 25 illegal immigrants"

where are those 25 people now? hellooooooooooo???? is anyone there? does ndn office close at noon?

what does 'nab' mean? since I.C.E. is involved/mentioned,.... does it make it more than something else. what is 'something else'? where is ANY follow up?

does I.C.E. have a spokesperson? is I.C.E. as silent and invisible as NDN writer staff?

hellooooooo? <echo-echo-echo>

"That means Kraft is responsible to the county for not having illegals working on the job, Logan said."

NOT? huh?

where are those 25 people now?

Must have been growing Marijuana in the basement? Those Cubans are so crafty!

They need to add me to the bottom line, since I did the leg work for them and busted Kraft Construction!

It's my unstanding that Kraft Fines its' subs for violations on the work place now lets' see if they get fined.Before a sub can pick up their check they must in turn pay the fines charged by Kraft. Looks like the door has opened for others to fine Kraft/Spectrum!!

NDN will hire these 25 as 'experienced' reporters!!!

Be careful here; I would no sooner mess with Fred Pezeshkan in the construction and the building trades then I would Tony Soprano...get my drift?

Reported by ABC7 News
Posted on: Thursday, May 15, 2008

FORT MYERS: Deputies have detained 25 construction workers at the site of the new Lee County Jail off Ortiz Avenue due to concerns over their immigration status.

The sheriff's office says subcontractors were employing illegal immigrants.

Several illegal workers could be seen wearing handcuffs and being placed into patrol cars late Thursday morning.

At least two were wearing a shirt bearing the name "Spectrum."

Deputies have said one of the subcontractors was a painting company out of Collier County.

The 25 illegal immigrants were taken into the custody of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which participated in the sweep with Lee County deputies.

Twenty three of those arrested were men, three were women. They were from Mexico, Brazil, Guatemala and Peru.

The suspects are in the custody of the ICE Office of Detention and Removal. They have all been placed in removal proceedings and will remain in custody pending the outcome of their case.

thank you ABC7 news for following up on this

Foreclosure....What was the company like as a employer? (pay/benefits). Did they have many non hispanic legal workers. Would they hire white laborers?

The should put Kraft Construction in handcuffs for hiring illegals. Kraft is a huge company and does a lot of work in the area, they should know better than to hire illegals.

"Be careful here; I would no sooner mess with Fred Pezeshkan in the construction and the building trades then I would Tony Soprano...get my drift?"

yeah, i do. i think a bunch of people understand the situation.. closed down restaurants, new ones opening, council decisions, real estate transactions... or lack of.

is the Pezeshkan "family organization" anything like "Antaramian" and other big money issues in our area that we are hearing about lately?

how deep has this all gotten here in our little paradise world we live in? i wonder....

HA, HA, HA!!! Get out of OUR country PARASITES!!!

Razorbuzz...

You wrote, "CapeCodder; Are you sure you have any idea what you're doing when you looked?

There are 7 ACTIVE companies in Florida that are "Spectrum Painting".

The specific one referenced in the story is out of Port Charlotte and it's docs are here"

News flash, feminine hygeine productbag...

A) I posted that comment at 1:32 pm.

B) The story, originally published 11:12 a.m., Thursday, May 15, 2008, contained only two paragraphs and described Spectrum only as an outfit out of COLLIER county.

It read, "The illegal immigrants were workers for Spectrum Painting out of Collier County, according to a sheriff’s office report.

C) The story was updated 2:24 p.m., Thursday, May 15, 2008 with the newer, flashier information.

D) Port Charlotte is not in Collier County.

So evidently, you are leaps and bounds above my intellectual capacity and I humbly genuflect before the altar of your abilities.

Your mother should be slapped for having had you.

YES!!!!!! About time!!!!!!!

http://www.bluestonesicily.com/images...

"tino, i tink we should lay low on hiring the illegals for a short time. Pezeshkan and Antaramian have lately caused some.... 'disturbances' in the 'areas of our interests'. the newspaper and some that write there have seemed to be alerted to our 'activities'. tell the local gov't there to stay away from controversial things right now. have the local county and city officials elect new politicians for now in the bonita springs political arena.. and in naples law enforcement. we will take care of our other interests down there at another time. in the mean time.. see if you can find another painting company to fix this and please try to deflect our grow house endeavours from getting busted so much. a few is ok, but pay the sheriff some more to lay off. this is getting too much press lately. thank you tino, you are a good boy"

Capecodder: yo genius. It's Spectrum Contracting, the new name for the past few years for what was Spectrum Painting and Waterproofing. So start slapping yourself since you are too old for your mother to do it now.

And Bush says our borders are safe here in the Homeland /Fatherland/Motherland.

BULL!

Please view:
Keith Olbermann May 14th comment on Pres. Bush showing his empathy for the death of U.S. soldiers… by giving up golf.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/

Naplescracker,

Are you so ignorant as to think that a powerful man like Fred Pezeshkan and the powers behind Kraft and their subsidiaries can't find out who you are. Anyone will sing if the price is right.
Why would you be boasting that you are the force behind them getting busted. Not too bright I'd say.

CapeCodder;
The sentence is worded that the individuals are from Collier, not the company. MANY Port Charlotte companies do business in Lee and Collier. Lee/Collier are not an island unto themselves.

As for the feminine hygeine productbag reference - Did I use any pejorative terms in reference to you? No. Kindly behave as an adult and keep it civil. Assclowns like you are why the comment sections frequently get derailed.

Whoops - There goes the namecalling in my post as well. Oh-well. Deal with it.

The U.S. is becoming more and more like pre-WW2 Germany. The economy is going in the dumper and Hispanics and Moslems give the citizens a focus for their rage and bigotry. The government has almost absolute power. The concentration camps are in place, the torture is taking place.

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

Martin Niemöller

#15 Posted by thetruthhurts on May 15, 2008 at 12:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

--------------------------------
Yes. And this is how history repeats itself.
You can only thank

#1 Inept GOVT
#2 Greedy (traitorous) Employers

Very good comparison.
That is exactly how Hitler came to power.

Imagine all that rage welling up in the minds of all those "unemployed" CITIZEN service workers who can't find a job.

And the GOVT does nothing about the areas 429,000 Illegal workers who are working in many of the same trades today...

Scorpionsting, it was a joke that I "busted" them... I did apprently what several others did, including the journalists and went to the Corporations online and typed in "Spectrum Painting" and BINGO, there was was for Collier County and Kraft Construction written in plain english right below it.

No, I'm not ignorant, especially if I could figure that out.... and sorry, but people like Fred Pezeshkan don't scre me...why should they?

razorbuzz, read it again, it says "The illegal immigrants were workers for Spectrum Painting out of Collier County", which means Spectrum Painting is located in Collier County.

"The illegal immigrants were workers for Spectrum Painting out of Collier County"

which is owned by Kraft (Pezeshkan)

which is owned by Luigi in Chicago

which is ran by Daniel in Dallas, who is married to the sister of the borther-in-law of someone in Miami, who is related to Guido in Kansas City who works for someone in Boston named Tony who is under the employment of someone in NYC named "Smith" which is a corporation owned by a hidden conglomerate related to the same owners of the Shangri La Resort in downtown Bonita Springs, Fl who has a special interest in someone named "Antaramian" in Naples Florida who...

................

Spectrum is a sister company, division of Kraft Construction. And they are doing very well for themselves. They moved into the multi million dollar building complex just West of the new Naples Nissan dealer on Pine Ridge Rd. near I 75 in early 2007.

Wonder if they prospered much off illegals. I've subcontracted for them and most of their paint crews are Hispanic, most of the crew bosses as well.

#12 Posted by foreclosure_agent

I agree, it will be interesting to see how many painters fail to show up to work ...LOL

If this keeps up the kids graduating from school this year may actually find a job.

Shame on you Mr.Hart Saying Kraft has no relationship with Spectrum. We know better. Just saw Mr.Pete Murphy tell The news crew in his usual manner to get off of Krafts property, when asked about it!!!! Lets Hide Ya".ll

Kraft is no different than any other greedy business in Collier or Lee County that will try to pay the lowest pay and hire illegals. I hope they are held accountable for their actions.

The whole system is a joke...

Welcome to the new world. There are many, many workers (legal) that will gladly do any type of work...for a fair and reasonable wage. Unfortunately, the powers that be, including politicians and employers like documented and undocumented labor that keeps costs down so they can put more money in their pockets and keep inflation lower. This is our world until we stand up for our rights as US citizens and demand fair wages for labor. Labor unions have abused the system in the latter part of the 20th century and the result is lower wages across the board for the middle class. When workers feel enough pain, they will stand up for fair wages, with or without organized labor, but as long as our government turns a blind eye to undocumented labor we will feel the pain. Wake up!

info,

I worked for a different sub and Spectrum was on the same job. Only white guys I ever saw drove the company trucks.

Adios, amigos! Viva los gringos!

Every construction project in Collier County has illegals working. Open your eyes Collier!! This is a huge problem!

Way to go, Sheriff Mike Scott for having your office to make sure that your contractors are using Legal employees. You know, people who are in the county and in the country that are Legal. Sheriff, lets face it you are an Embarrassment to Lee County.

i wish local AND federal politicians had sheriff scotts' attitude. barn animals? <chuckle>
==================================
Sheriff Mike Scott called the entire affair “an embarrassment” to society as a whole.

“It’s ironic that of all the projects they could be working on, they were working on a jail facility,” Scott said. “In my opinion, it’s symptomatic of the bigger problem facing this country. Until we secure our border, we can’t even begin to dream of changing things. It’s like all the barn animals are out, and now we’re just starting to think about closing the door.”

you all need to wake up and smell the tomatos.Illegals are not needed at the moment,so thats why they want to pick them all up,but lets wait till we get a disaster and then call F.E.M.A.

FIND.EVERY.MEXICAN.AVAILABLE

NPD 1969 for you edification:

Sheriff Scott was not in charge of this construction project, it is the construction manager who is at fault.

Do you understand the fault in your assumption that Sheriff Scott is somehow in the wrong?

Kraft Construction has a signed contract and affidavit with the county, which clearly states they may not employee illegal workers. Further, it also includes the subs they select for the jail expansion project not using illegal workers.

The Sheriff and ICE did a great job and I compliment them on the professional manner in which they carried this operation out.

Now it is up to the county and Immigration to determine the appropriate punishment.

With all the power behind Kraft I doubt this is going to turn into much. They have completed many quality projects, and have a venerable repuation in the industry.

Boldt

shows your i.q.carpetbagger

hear hear!

kudos to LCSO and ICE.

now... let's hope this helps get the attention of city, county, state and FEDERAL political authorities and make them understand too that the 'barn animals are out'

Good work NDN, the original article mentioned Fred Pezeskan, nice you edited out any mention of this pillar community involvement.
“An extremely reputable company" Nothing like 25 illegals on one jobsite. Of course the rest of the jobsites are clean.
Isn't it great when Persians (a.k.a Iranians) have our best interest at heart.
Is it time for a new house of Gulfshore?

So, let me get this straight... Kraft has just signed a rule that they WILL NOT HIRE ILLEGALS. One of the companies they hire, is loaded with illegals....
Now, county officials 'hope Kraft can finish the job, they 'doubt' that Kraft will be penalized.....
Have I got this right?
So why have the rule in the first place if they are not going to follow up?
Quote: "County Public Works Director Jim Lavender said his initial reaction is Kraft won’t be fired, though the company is in violation of its contract because of the illegals.
“We haven’t really had this before,” he said. “My attorney is not in the office today. I just don’t know right now.”
Baatman74's comments; (Duh..., MY attorney?? WHO is this guy??)
Quote; "Lavender said he’d personally like to see Kraft finish the jail project.

“Is it in Lee County’s best interest? I don’t know,” he said.
Baatman74: Then we see a 'duck and dodge' by Lee Commissioner, Judah:
Quote: "Judah said he didn’t want to address the larger immigration arguments. Recent changes in federal law have been designed to penalize those companies that hire and profit from illegal workers.
“I’m not getting into ideology,” he said. “The pros and cons of hiring employees that are legal or not legal, whether it’s an impact or benefit to the community. The fact is it’s stipulated in the contract they won’t be hired.”
Baatman74: "...getting into ideology...?"
Judah doesn't want to get, "..into ideology,' ??
I can hear him now... (Whew!!#$%^&*() Thought they would NEVER stop asking me stupid questions....)
Jeeezzz, does it EVER END???

How about the new Collier County Court House Complex when is that going to be checked?

#15 Posted by thetruthhurts
**QUOTE**
The economy is going in the dumper and Hispanics and Moslems give the citizens a focus for their rage
**END**

This has been a problem long before the economy went sour.

If you want illegals here, you pay for them out of your OWN pocket (after taxes) not mine!

Pit_stop:
The Governor, Lt. Governor, State Rep. Aubuchon, Congressman Mack and all the County Commissioners have been informed, and now it's up to them to all work on the best route forward that eliminates these type of errors from occurring in the future.

Hopefully, the NDN will continue to investigate, and whomever pointed out the multiple changes in the story line--you are not alone. Don't know if that means what some have said about the influence the Kraft Organization exert over the media, but all the versions have been saved for reference later.

It should be noted that the leadership of Kraft and Spectrum contain overlaps or so it seems from the Sunbiz details:
Link to sunbiz and Spectrum Construction 2008 filing:
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/30367443.pdf

Link to sunbiz and Kraft filing for 2007
(2008 was not online?):
http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/00098880.pdf

Link to Kraft, Please take note of their work, awards, history of community projects and involvement:
(Plus the nice photo of Farhad and Gov. Crist)
http://www.kraftconstruction.com/

"How about the new Collier County Court House Complex when is that going to be checked?"

Streetrodder don't you think that place has been scrutinized with the recent death(s) that occurred on that site?
I'd hope that OSHA and other investigators would have uncovered whether the Kraft Co. had illegals working on that site during their review of the site post the deaths.

Streetrodder - The Collier County Courthouse construction has been delayed indefinitely, due an sudden shortage of painters!!!

They said only half detained worked for a subcontractor. who did the other half work for?? Kraft? And what is this next quote about?? "The county didn’t have a specific requirement that illegals not be hired until 2007" So that means in 2006 you could hire illegals and keep them because their grandfathered in?? Kraft is paying off so many officials its not funny they just call it campaign funds. Nothing will happen to them you can bet on it but if it was one of there competitors I bet something would happen 90% of the construction sites have illegals working for them and the government knows about it.

Boldt. good job. So interesting when one does some homework on companies, isn't i?. NDN perhaps you ought to do some homework of your own in the future. Ok, break the story quickly with a few lines and then spend 10 minutes and see what links connect to one another. Florida makes is pretty easy to find this kind of information.

Ummmm.... well... guess what? We got THEM didn't we??? Now guess what?? Because your children, sons and daughters, are more concerned about skate boarding, pimples, the most current fashions, who's on the invite list and the latest tattoo strokes... whoops forgot to mention they have never broken a sweat in their lives.. these people who take jobs an AMERICAN wouldn't stoop to and still provide for their families countries away... what's wrong with this picture??? Isn't this what AMERICANS were supposed to be... hard working family kinda people... seems we have moved from doing to ... well... judging and "not my worry.. I've given" mentality.. guess what.. the world caught on a long time ago just after SHOCK AND AWE... we are doing ourselves a significant disservice... now step up and pay those increased tax rates for the bureaucracy of a extremely self centered police state.

Join thousands of US citizens from throughout the country, and GET INVOLVED!!!

Vote out any/all treasonous politicians who support/encourage this illegal invasion-----no matter what party!!!

It is now time to vote on the "best" candidate regarding this issue------not your party!!!

We are losing our cities/states, jobs, culture, communities, futures of our children/grandchildren, and our country!!!

Join thousands of US citizens from throughout the country, by joining these sites/forums!!!

http://www.numbersusa.com

http://www.minutemanhq.com

http://www.saveourstate.org

http://www.americanpatrol.com

They are all arrested now that the project is only a few months from being finished............sweet........

Legislators, state attorneys, DCF, police, and sheriff, cause unintended consequences.

Actions on many cases are unneeded, DESTROY people's lives, and WASTE taxes.

The solution includes electing LEGISLATORS who will vote to REMOVE laws that create unintended consequences.

We currently have 305 million people in the United States.
China has 1.3 billion citizens.
How many Chinese do you want to take in?
500 million?
700 million?
1 billion?
There are over 6.6 billion people on earth right now, how many of them do you think we should take in? 2 billion? 4 billion? 6 billion?
How many from India?
How many from Russia?
How many from Africa?
How many from South East Asia?
How many from the Middle East nations?
How many from Europe?
How many from Australia?
All of them?
Can you imagine what this country would be like with 3 billion people instead of 3 million? 100 people for every 1 who is here now. Should we move them all to your town? Your state? Will you support them? Feed them? House them?
Less than 4% of all illegal aliens in this country are employed "picking crops", but over 40% of all illegal aliens in this country are on some form of welfare. Over 8 million illegal aliens being subsidized by our tax money.
What do you think it would be like if there were 800 million illegal aliens in this country on some form of welfare?
Where is the money going to come from?
What jobs would be here for our own poorest citizens?
Most illegal aliens work for cash and pay no taxes. Any illegal aliens who use ITINs and pay taxes work for minimum wages and don't pay enough in to support one illegal alien family on welfare for a month. At the end of the year they actually get more back than they paid in, so those who "pay taxes" take more out than they pay in.

Or is it that you think only "Hispanics" should be allowed to come here illegally? That would make you a racist.

The USA has a finite amount of resources.
Anyone who says "let them all come in" is a fool.
The USA cannot take in every single foreign national who wants to come here. What kind of ecological and economic disasters do you think we would be facing?

The sad part is that no one will be accountable, minimal fines may be imposed, and it will be business as usual in 60 days to complete the building.

When I read about the Des Moines kosher slaughterhouse being busted with 250 illegals, I had to smile.

If you can't trust rabbi's and muni's, who can you trust?

“As we look toward the future, we will continue to focus our priorities on our employees, our customers, our subcontractors and our communities as partners in our accomplishments,” Pezeshkan said. “We have an excellent team of dedicated and valued employees and I look forward to making Kraft Construction Company the most respected and most successful construction company in America.”

I think this recent news article says it for a lot of us...

ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE NOT IMMIGRANTS!
Those who argue on behalf of illegal aliens and their “rights” often play word games in appealing to the pride of real Americans.

“Immigrants Built America” and “We are all Immigrants” are popular slogans at pro-illegal alien protests and in jargon used by those who favor open borders, regardless of the impact on America’s homeland security, economy, or culture.

What the anti rule-of-law crowd omits is the crucial word "legal," as in "legal immigrants." While it’s true that we are all descendants of immigrants, it is not true that our forefathers came to America illegally.

America was not built by illegal aliens!

Migrating to America legally is, and should be, a long, drawn-out procedure meant to protect the interests of American citizens. It involves more than simply jumping a fence and heading north in pursuit of free health care, education, food stamps, and other handouts paid for by U.S. taxpayers.

Legal immigration means enduring rigorous hurdles like background checks to detect a criminal background or possible ties to terrorists; medical examinations to detect diseases still prevalent in third-world nations, but long since eradicated here; proof of financial solvency so as to prevent newcomers from becoming a burden on U.S. taxpayers, and testing for knowledge of American history and English skills.

Those who have jumped the fence into America in order to avoid our immigration checks are not immigrants. Rather, they are illegal aliens, with no claim whatsoever to the welcome mat extended to legal immigrants. Such people do not deserve recognition or sanction by the United States, and should be rounded up and deported as soon as possible, without exception.

Another word game played by pro-illegal aliens is to call these unprincipled people “undocumented.”

The implication of this term is that the invaders are simply missing a piece of paper or two, probably some unnecessary bureaucratic red tape designed to keep people out.

In truth, illegal aliens have invaded our nation, leaving America vulnerable to undetected crime, terrorism, disease, and financial devastation at the hands of people with no legal or moral justification for being here.

Do not be fooled by word games and euphemistic cover-ups. People here illegally are illegal aliens. Period!

So political stunts like this is where Mike Scott is devoting his resources! My house got broken into last week and it took four hours to get a deputy out there to write a report. And even then I could tell the guy couldn't give a darn about what happened to me. Hey sheriff - how about solving some crimes instead of attacking people who aren't hurting anyone. I wish you'd put one tenth of this manpower into figuring out who took my stuff. We're getting beaten up by burglaries in Lee County and you decide to pull a publicity stunt like this?

snicksnack - Look at the LCSO and/or CCSO arrest log online everyday. These are 90% of the people committing crimes! Arrest & deport them and Arrest and/or heavily fine the scumbag companies that knowingly hire ILLEGALS! Clean OUR country of these PARASITES and crime rates will drop exponentially!

Good Job!!! Keep this up and other agencies will follow your lead!!!

http://www.wewantmike.com/

Please go to this web site and click on the star on the left side. It's a lovely song about Mike Scott.

RE: POST # 6

Who will do the work if the illegals are gone?

Regular Americans thats who.

It's called negotiating for a wage. When the subcontractor goes out and looks for workers, they yell out what they want to pay and the first fool to raise his/her hand is the one who gets the job. Illegals are living in dread of being caught so they do the least complaining and the prospective employer knows that. Hence the lower wages paid.

Lower wages are due in large part to the fact that the illegal doesn't want an audit trail from taxes being paid.

Once the illegals are history, the subcontractors will simply find that hands will not be raised at the first wage offer and will have to offer more for the services of regular Americans. It is not that regular Americans are afraid of hard work, they just know when a subcontractor is cheating its workers with sub standard wages.

This idea the regular Americans are afraid of hard work is simply an outright lie.

Jeffery Daumer, John Couey John List,Ted Bundy,these are scumbags .. so many gripe and moan about the illegals here in the US well I'm sure some if not most of you work for someone that has or has had illegals working for them.. many of you know or at-least assume some of your coworkers are illegal but not one of you have the guts to do something about it, in such a unstable economy maybe one may fear of losing their job if they rock the boat, fear the boss will find out who made the waves and got (him/her/Boss) on the so called hit list. I look at it like this, stop whining on NDN and start doing something.. take a look in the mirror, see what you can do on your own, how far are you really willing to go to make a stand? We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their CREATOR with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. Sound familiar?

"all are created equal, that they are endowed by their CREATOR with certain unalienable Rights"

at birth yes.. until one chooses to be illegal. because one may have their own legitmacy to being in the u.s. illegally, it doesn't make an illegal less than illegal

the key word is all are 'CREATED' equal. then it's up to the individual to exert free will.. whether it's sin, compromising the sovereignty of another nation, growing and selling dope, stealing a boat and smuggling humans, running a house of ill repute, etc etc etc

all do have the right to exist, but it's the individual choice on how and where to exist. all choices come with a price, circumstance or even benefit.

being illegal doesn't allow certain rights. by being illegal, some rights are circumstantially given up