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Ave Maria’s developer is looking for some relief from Southwest Florida’s less than heavenly real estate market.
Citing a new state law, the town is asking to change income requirements for those who wish to live in Ave Maria’s affordable housing sections.
If the request is granted, annual family income restrictions on certain homes in the development would increase by nearly $30,000.
The state law, passed in 2007 and co-sponsored by the late-Rep. Mike Davis, R-Naples, allows developers to request changes to their affordable housing income restrictions, provided the units have been marketed for six months and have received a certificate of occupancy.
For Ave Maria, the request could mean a dramatic shift in affordable housing requirements from original development plans.
Nearly half of the 700 homes designated for the lower-income restriction would now qualify for the higher-income restriction. That’s because Ave Maria has advertised the Middlebrook section of town — planned for 326 homes, all income-restricted at the lower level — for over a year, even though only 48 of those homes have been built to date.
“As long as we continue to actively market the units, and we have no qualified low-income buyers, then we are able to offer these units to moderate income buyers at the same price,” said Blake Gable, a vice president at town co-developer Barron Collier Cos.
The first meeting on Barron Collier’s request occurred last month at the Collier County Planning Commission, which unanimously recommended approval, and the developer will have a hearing before the Collier County Commission on May 27.
Generally speaking, homebuilding has slowed at Ave Maria, but construction is still occurring.
Since February, 31 homes in the town have received certificates of occupancy. There are a total of 253 homes in the town that had received certificates of occupancy as of this past week. County property appraiser records also show 29 condominiums in the town’s center have been purchased.
For more than six months, town co-developer Tom Monaghan has acknowledged home sales are falling below expectations, most recently telling a Detroit business magazine he didn’t expect to turn a profit on the town until after 2010.
The town’s affordable housing residences are particularly hard sells because of an inability to find qualified low-income buyers, Barron Collier representatives said.
During the planning commission meeting, Barron Collier’s Naples-based attorney John Passidomo spoke to the “extraordinary difficulty that has been experienced at Ave Maria in attempting to sell affordable housing units.”
Kelly Lauman, general sales manager for town homebuilder Pulte Homes, said at the meeting her company has met with various county agencies, including the Sheriff’s Office and Collier School District, to market the homes to low-income buyers, but to no avail.
Of the 48 homes already built in Middlebrook, 36 have sold. But of that number, 32 were bought by the university to be used as rentals. Only four homes designated as low-income have been sold to homeowners with one other under contract, Gable said.
The average selling price for the four homes was $179,500. Pulte advertises two models in Middlebrook on its Web site. One is a 1,163-square-foot, two-bedroom, 2.5-bath model starting at $169,900, and the other is a 1,395-square-foot, three-bedroom, 2.5-bath model, starting at $195,900.
Gable also lamented last summer’s move by county staff to question Ave Maria’s eligibility for a program that defers impact fees for affordable housing projects. Impact fees are one-time charges paid on new construction to help pay for parks, roads and other capital projects.
Under the county program, fees are deferred until a home is sold, refinanced or ceases to remain the new homeowner’s primary residence.
By the time the County Commission determined Ave Maria qualified for deferrals it was too late for the homes already under construction, Gable said.
“It was unfair to some potential homebuyers at Ave Maria,” he said.
He added the town plans to take advantage of the deferral program in its future affordable housing construction. Ave Maria would reduce home prices by its deferral amount “dollar for dollar,” Gable added. This year, the average impact fee deferral was just more than $18,000.
According to county staff, Ave Maria is the first development in the county to request a change to its affordable housing requirements after the new state law took effect.
The state Department of Community Affairs, the clearinghouse for development orders, doesn’t have records for how many projects in Florida have made this request, a spokesman said.




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.....and so begins the inevitable....ask for special consideration because you are going to help out those in need and then chage the rules later after you have gotten what you need from government. So shameful, so Christian....
#1 Posted by 12gauge on May 18, 2008 at 8:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
LMAO
#2 Posted by 676 on May 18, 2008 at 9:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I was getting worried. I has been almost 48 hours since the last Ave Maria story.
#3 Posted by swampbuggy on May 18, 2008 at 9:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
perhaps nobody wants to move out to cultville.
#4 Posted by Tookie_Williams on May 18, 2008 at 9:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Where is Zen Master Rama?
#5 Posted by dooley on May 18, 2008 at 9:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
If the County backs down to the sounds of "Bible Thumpers" looking for a break because they couldn't help enough people (AKA Make enough money) we might as well have Tara move back from the sticks of New Hampshire so she can complain about Naples some more...
Maybe it is because you can buy cheaper homes elsewhere in Naples???
#6 Posted by workattack on May 18, 2008 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Haven't these vampires gotten enough tax breaks from the county already?
#7 Posted by greathornedlizard on May 18, 2008 at 10:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Exactly, Lizard.......The article stated 36 homes had been sold in Middlebrooke, but 32 of them had been sold to Ave Maria for use as rentals. Only 4 had been sold to the general public. They have 12 units available for sale immediately.
I think there is a lot of affordable housing closer to the current business centers that might be eligible for this type of grant.
#8 Posted by volochine on May 19, 2008 at 1:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
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full of grace,
the Lord is with thee;
blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners,
now
and at the hour
of our death.
Amen.
#9 Posted by bicoastal on May 19, 2008 at 5:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I guess if the homes aren't affordable at low prices the Collier Cos solution isn't to further lower prices to make them more affordable, but to raise prices so when (and if) the market increases they can sell them for less affordable prices to more economically secure buyers.
Makes sense doesn't it? Well maybe to Coletta.
#10 Posted by chap914 on May 19, 2008 at 6:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm no fan of Ave Maria but if you think about it, how many income qualified buyers at 50% and 60% of median income around here have the credit worthiness to qualify for a simple mortgage?
Banking standards have been raised to the max as a result of the subprime lending mortgage market fiasco. Banks are now not only demanding pristine credit ratings from buyers but 30% down and severe penalties for backing out of a purchase.
If they do sell to a higher income mortgage qualified buyer, my understanding is that they will be required to pay impact fees on that home.
The world has changed; I would say for the good. I can't take issue with a developer for a market correction that has already penalized them and all of us in an area economy totally dependent on tourism and construction.
#11 Posted by RunSilentRunDeep on May 19, 2008 at 7:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm sure if Coletta read this story and Collier's proposal the only thing he could do is wave his index finger up and down on his lips and mumble.
#12 Posted by cornandbeans on May 19, 2008 at 7:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)
RunSilentRunDeep, I agree with you.
Visited the town this weekend. We were out in that direction for an event, so we decided to see the place.
Frankly, I was impressed at the way it was laid out and how little impact to the environment it has. The restoration of wetlands, the layout and the amount of property dedicated to preservation is very balanced. The people who planned this town did a far better job than most planners could ever do.
We found the town friendly and pleasant. It had a nice old fashioned feel, like a real home town. Much less "Theme parked" than I expected.
Will we be moving there? Not planning on it, at least for the foreseeable future. I would be difficult to leave behind a home we really enjoy with the acreage we have to move (even if the market leaned favorably for sales). But we stopped at the Ave Maria Bean and had a great lunch. Exceptionally well priced and delicious food, excellent coffee, too.
We will be back to visit. I hope this town does well.
#13 Posted by BlueTonguedVole on May 19, 2008 at 9:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Yeee Gods..The Pizza Pope is a Flim-Flam Man !
who knew ?
#14 Posted by LooLooney on May 19, 2008 at 1:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What was "unfair" was that townhomes in the middle of nowhere should never have cost 170K to begin with. The developer is reaping what has been sown. Start it at 100K and the interest will skyrocket... It never was "Affordable Housing" in the first place. Raising the income limits will not create interest because Catholic families with bunches of children don't want to live in townhouses! Who in their right mind would pay that much to live in a townhouse all the way out here?
#15 Posted by devoutRC on May 21, 2008 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
#14 Posted by devoutRC, so you must live "out here" according to your post?
I live "out here" too and the affordable housing that was constructed is meant for the service industry, such as policemen, hospital workers, etc.
This town was not built for "Catholic families with bunches of children" it is just a town! I'm not Catholic. I moved to Ave because the homes ARE affordable and I could not stand the congestion of Naples, plus the chance to be part of a new town.
#16 Posted by GatorsFan on May 21, 2008 at 3:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
developer scam buildout always takes years cut your prices on the colliers agricultural land theyve already gotten a break
#17 Posted by welcome02 on May 22, 2008 at 5:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Whaaa...whaaa, I bought my house at the wrong time....can I have a tax break too???
It's called luck-of-the-draw folks.....$uck it up.
#18 Posted by Native on May 28, 2008 at 12:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
No one is forcing Catholics or others to move to Ave Maria. I would love to live there! We move there because we choose to, because we want to be with our own kind. Birds of a feather flock together, and I would give anything to live in a town that refused porn and other unhealthy habits. The townsfolk can vote on things. No one is forcing anything down anyone's throat; you may come and go as you please. It's not the soviet union. Every new community has its guidelines and covenants. Ave Maria has theirs. Praise be to Jesus Christ our very Lord & Savior! Someone, Mr. Monaghan, has come to his senses and has had the courage to go against the grain and do something good, for us. I pray he has the fortitued to continue his work and that all his plans flourish!
Mary S.
Indianapolis
#19 Posted by schoooter on May 30, 2008 at 9:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
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