Nookie on the side should not disqualify a candidate!

But "hush money" should disqualify a candidate

Re: Post #1 - Yes, it should, particularly if they keep quiet about it. And, especially, if they are running on a "family values" or "family morals" platform.

If they admit from the outset that they are cheating on their spouse or have illegitimate children, I agree that it shouldn't disqualify them.

These people are the leaders of our country. They should act like it. If they can't, they have no business holding the office.

Leave the guy alone. He's human. He's a man. He didn't break any laws.

Perhaps he did not break any of society's laws, but he for sure broke moral law! If he is corrupt in this area, makes me wonder what else he may be corrupt in. If he can't keep his commitment to his wife and family, why should we expect him to keep commitments to his constituency? We need to elect people of ethics who will do the right thing no matter what! Mr. Mahoney obviously needs to clean up his ethical behavior!

ranger11 -- Get real. Are you that naive? You'd have no one to elect if you want it your way.

Re:#6...I have to believe their are some good, honest, ethical individuals in congress. They may be few and far between, but they are there. With the recent economic crisis in this nation, we need to elect people who do the right thing, and have ethics beyond reproach. If we don't, the country will continue on the downhill slide it is currently on. Their are consequences to having leadership, and electing leadership that is corrupt. They corrupt the whole nation. Kinda like one bad apple spoils the whole barrel.

# 7 -- we don't live in the perfect world you think we do. What you said is nice, but not realistic or possible.

Classic,classisc,classic__________________

With and aid "sexual harrasment", no way around it, can not do that or her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again, he's a Democrat, it's okay folks.

Ranger11 is right, this guy ran on a tickets to takes his morals to Washington. Guess what, they already had those morals in Washington.

Character DOES count. If you dispute that, yours may be lacking.

silverback you and ranger need to get a little on the side.

Dude,

What Mahoney did was hypocritical. That shows that he will lie to his family and to his constituents. I have no problem with Barney Frank who says he is gay and sleeps around. He is open and honest about it. I don’t like Barney’s politics but I admire him for his honesty. Mahoney on the other had stands up and runs on a holier than though platform and espouses that he should be elected on the basis of his morals and values. Then he shows us he does not have the morals or values he campaigned on. That disqualifies him in my book. It was not some momentary laps in judgment, but an affair that went on for years. I don’t care what party you come from, if you show that you are a liar and a hypocrite, I will not vote for you.

This, of course is just my opinion.

Dude,

That's what you "Know" about Barney Frank!! He was out front with that which was revealed about him! He's wierd, perversive, untrustworthy and has greatly contibuted to the current financial crisis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
He's not ok

If you are looking for family values, a man who has been loyal to his family, and is an exemplary candidate,

Vote for Barack Obama.

fromhere -- I respect your opinion. I disagree with on this subject.

August8,
I did not say I support Barney Frank, I said I give him credit and respect him for telling the truth about himself. I do not support Barney for a lot of reasons, but at least he is honest about himself.

LieStopper,
As I just said to August, that is only one of the many criteria I use to make up my mind as to whom I will vote for. My biggest problem with Obama is the people he has spent years associating with who have become a liability to his campaign all of a sudden are only passing acquaintances. Well that and a few other things like his lack of experience, the fact as soon as he has a position he starts running for the next rung in the ladder, his economic policy and his foriegn policy. Other than that I support Obama.

Believe me when I asy, who ever is the next president I will support. Who ever is the next president will need all the support they can get!

Dude,

So you would vote for someone who lies to you, is amoral, shows bad judgment and is a hypocrite just so long as they have not broken the law?

Just asking.

fromhere - yes. I did. I voted for W the first time around. You probably voted for W as well.

Obama, Faithful Family man, ROFLMAO

Google Vera Baker and Obama

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10...

At least it is better than his BJ with Larry Sinclair..... Ha Ha Ha I might have some respect for him if it is true.

It amazes me as to how this kind of garbage comes out around election time. Did it take the Republicans this long to think it up?

Fromhere, Barney Frank admitted what he was exposed about, that is not being honest!!

He's a perversive preditor, and when his political life comes to an end, hopefully very soon, he will get caught up in a men's bathroom situation at some remote beach, just wait!!

He was emulating Billy Clinton!!!

#22: Are you suggesting Republicans thought up the idea of Mahoney having an affair? Did they force him to do it?

#21 skyhook,
Even your repubby dreamboy Karl Rove has said the repubs shouldn't run with your story.

There is nothing there.
Swing and a miss, batter!!!

Obama/Biden '08.
or you can believe the lies....

fromhere:

You respect Barney Frank??? His former lover worked and was responsible for much of the problems at Fannie Mae.

http://www.businessandmedia.org/print...

The news media have covered the relationship in the past, but there have been no mentions since 2005, according to Nexis and despite the collapse of Fannie Mae. The July 3, 1998, Reliable Source column in The Washington Post reported Frank, who is openly gay, had a relationship with Herb Moses, an executive for the now-government controlled Fannie Mae. The column revealed the two had split up at the time but also said Frank was referring to Moses as his “spouse.” Another Washington Post report said Frank called Moses his “lover” and that the two were “still friends” after the breakup.

Frank was and remains a stalwart defender of Fannie Mae, which is now under FBI investigation along with its sister organization Freddie Mac, American International Group Inc. (NYSE:AIG) and Lehman Brothers (NYSE:LEH) – all recently participants in government bailouts. But Frank has derailed efforts to regulate the institution, as well as denying it posed any financial risk. Frank’s office has been unresponsive to efforts by the Business & Media Institute to comment on these potential conflicts of interest.

He's honest about himself??? You could only think that if you have a taste for tained koolaid. His conflict of interest and lack of accountability about his part in the Fannie Mae debacle is a joke. He should be impeached.

His openness about his sexuality is minor compared to the damage he's done.

And skyrocket1fl:

I'm glad you brought up Larry Sinclair. Did you know that around the time the Larry Sinclair story came out that 3 openly homosexual men from Trinity United were murdered execution style? All three died from a bullet to the back of the head. Things that make you go "hmmmm?"

It seems the Globe and Enquirer (who were investigating the Edward's Love Child story) are also investigating Obama as we speak.

While I'm not one for tabloid journalism, I'm not sanguine about these 3 murders taking place within 40 days all around the time the Larry Sinclar story broke in late 2007.

I'm having a wait and see attitude about this, but if the press were doing it's job, this would have gotten more press.

why do all you democrats excuse this guy, when the same ran out Foley from office??? Who's the Hypocrite here? It's always a one way street with you libs. You get what you pay for.

I do not excuse him and I am a CutthroatLiberal.
Anyone is his position should be smarter.

He will still get my vote anyway.
Tough choices.

Re: Post #30 - So, John McCain cheats on his first wife, and you cruficy him for it at every opportunity.

But, one of your own cheats on his wife, and it's okay and you'll still vote for him?

No, that's not hypocritical at all...

And now there's a story out that he might have had a second affair while having the first one?

Who is crucifying McCain? You didn't hear that from me. Or most Dems.

Did I say it was OK?
See Piano, you have twisted my post.

I don't care.
Just like Clinton, it is between spouses.

Redcarol57,

Again, I disagree with Barney Frank, I disagree with his policies, I disagree with the actions he has taken during his tenure in Congress. I would not vote for the man. I do respect the fact that he has been open and honest about his personal life. When he came out of the closet it was assumed that it would end his career, and he admitted to his proclivity. That is all. I always will respect a person for standing up and saying, yes that is true and not hiding what he is. Does not mean I like the man. There is a big difference.

LieStopper,

How old are you? I ask because I am curious if you will get this. You know who Tim Mahoney is starting to remind me of? Remember Chester Tate from the old TV show “Soap”.

That's fine fromhere, but as I stated at the end of my comment

"His openness about his sexuality is minor compared to the damage he's done."

And I think his involvement with his lovers has clearly clouded his judgement as a congressman, especially in regards to Fannie Mae and Herb Moses. That's no different than a heterosexual man involved in an extramartial affair that's clouded his judgement too.

What's the point in his openness if he's corrupt in another area. His openness is inconsequential at this point in history. But I'm glad you don't support him nonetheless.

One of the reasons we have lost control of the political process is that we expect our politicians to be saints, and when they inevitably come short of that standard, and are found out, the press has a field day whether its a Democrat or Republican. So, these people have every incentive to cover up and lie about their activities, whether its a crime or not (and affairs usually aren't crimes). When you get right down to, the fact that a politician is a cheater, or gay, has nothing to do with his ability to hold office, but if it bothers enough people let them elect someone else. That's democracy.

Re: Post #33 - It must be one of your other left-wing compatriots who is always harping on McCain's marital infidelity to his first wife, then...maybe boulderbilly or ElephantTamer or truthmatters. Whatever.

It's not "just between spouses", it made the news. (Just like Clinton's little intern incident, it wasn't "just between spouses", either.) And, it means that the Democrats are hypocrites for going on and on about John & Cindy McCain or the young Ms. Palin or anything else that has to do with "morals", because their party is no better than the other one.

I will agree that you didn't say outright you thought his behavior was okay. But, by still voting you're for him, you are giving your tacit approval and condoning it nonetheless.

You know, I acknowledge that our leaders aren't saints (neither is the electorate, namely us voters), however there does seem to be a lack of parity on how the press handles the indiscretions of a democrat as opposed to how they handle that of a republican.

The hypocrisy isn't so much with the politicans (we already know they're flawed), the hypocrisy is with the press and their reporting. They no longer even bother to hide their leanings.

Mahoney will remain in office after this blows over, not so with Foley or Craig. I should point out that Foley did NOT send e-mails to any young man that was under his state's age of consent. I don't believe he was ever charged either.

This in no way is my seal of approval for any of the above's behavior (republican or democrat). I'm just tired of in inequity.

The lack of shame and total arrogance of this guy really floors me. He needs to step down.