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Please don't waste our tax money on this scum. Simply deport them... now.

To okay:

Racist much?

You have three people who robbed a person, led law enforcement all over South Florida then ran out of gas (there's plenty of fodder for commentary right there!) yet all you can do is make assumptions about the victim?

Your logic is a bit screwy.

Hmmm, I suspect that the baby was fathered by "okay" and that "RunSilentRunDeep" is the woman's grandfather who hired these guys to possbily cause great harm to the woman. Therefore, we should "deport" these two and rid Florida of two more pieces of _hit.

THIS, IS GOING TO BE A GOOD ONE TODAY,I PERDICT 250+ HITS HERE TO DAY.

Now everyone be nice and remeber there will be updates all day. I will belive everything this mullet rapper reports on this great local story.

Some girls have all the fun

Hmmmmmmmm, I wonder if the missing driver is inside Mr. Gators belly. "Bellllllcccchhhhhhhh"

That would save the tax payers a few bucks.

Motel Room?? She knew the guys???? Sounds like a drug deal gone wrong!!

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This incident DID NOT occur at the Flamingo Motel. I am the Owner of the Flamingo! The incident occured at a 2nd floor rental condominium at the Bonita Beach Walk - 4450 Bonita Beach Road. They are right next door to us on Bonita Beach Road. There is to be a news broadcast correction at 12:00 Noon on Channel 7.

where are the gators when we need em'?...sounds like the cops did their work in tracking the swamp rats

ct10..good point, maybe the gators did 20% of their job..that would be terrrriffic...maybe the cops should a just let the dogs chase the rats til the swamp was quiet and well fed...

"she knew the men"...could be she'd seen em around the complex, or they were her brothers or customers..

Being a betting person, my logic says all of them are latino and some are probably illegal and involved in more crimes than one. It's simply the odds.

Calling me a racist isn't going to change anything....latinos will still prey on each other, and I'll still comment on their barbarity and 3rd world cancer that they spread.

Latinos started this with their La Raza mentality "For the RACE ALL, for others NOTHING" so don't call me a racist because I REACT to THEIR bad behavior......pointing it out is being TRUTHFUL......they just can't accept the FACTS about their "raza".

Latinos are inherently racist, and their motto proves that.....I didn't come up with it - they did.

Accept it, get over it, or change it.

Like I said, I didn't start it.....I'm simply reacting to it.

If latinos don't want to be associated with illegals, drug cartels, human smugglers, drop houses and fake document rings, they would DO SOMETHING about it.....instead they demand that we LEGITIMIZE them.......that's twisted, 3rd world logic.

Don't blame me for pointing it out.

I hope the Judge uses Biden's new and improved improved "just push a button" criminal database before bonding the thugs.

Larry King works for Lee County?

The crime rate is bad enough already without illegals and their familia y amigos causing more of it.

Criminals who were born here ARE punished.....those who are illegal just get a free ride home.

The OBVIOUS disparity between the number of crimes and method of punishment is enough to p i s s off ANY American......and we're not so blind that we can't see it.

Why should I point out white criminals? It's likely that they BELONG here. It would be nice to deport them though,.......ya think Mexico would take them? (Probably)

It's bad enough that people come here illegally, then when they add insult to injury by criminal behavior, I'm not supposed to be outraged?

Get over yourselves......this is my country and it's gone WAYYY downhill in the last 30 years (remember the '81 Mariel boatlift, then the '86 amnesty?). If you're not old enough to know how NICE it WAS, then you have nothing to complain about.

Look at what has happened to SW Florida.....it's a cesspool of illegals and the 3rd world "culture".......and not many REAL Americans want a part of it any longer.

Paradise has been allowed to turn into the barrio just like California.

Just wait until Florida is bankrupt like Cali......then the latinos will find another part of the country to destroy.

Hilarious.....not ONCE have I promoted white supremacy.....not ONCE have I claimed that the white race is superior......you people just can't accept VALID criticism about ANY of your raza, criminal or not.

By making observations, pointing out justified faults, the Kings (and Queens) of racism accuse me of being racist......don't forget "For the RACE ALL, for others NOTHING"....lololol

You just can't stand a taste of your own medicine.....hahahahahaha!!

If you happen to be white, don't expect to be waited on, served or helped if you find yourself in Little Havana, Hialeah, Immokalee......but remember it's not "racism" they're practicing, it's just the NORM for latinos.

Wrong again! I've been a liberal Dem all my life......but I won't be hijacked by the likes of illegals and their handlers.

What would make a liberal Dem so anti-illegal? Seeing what illegals and their dishonest amigos have done to my country.

I love my country more than I love the "party"......don't think that I'm the ONLY Dem who thinks this way.....there's PLENTY of us who see right through you.

Drug arrests

■ Tonya K. Martin, 45, 4800 Palmetto Court, East Naples, was arrested Tuesday at the intersection of St. Andrews Boulevard and U.S. 41 East. She was charged with possessing a controlled substance and tampering with evidence after a traffic stop.

■ Antoine D. Harris, 30, of Miami, was arrested Tuesday at the 98 mile marker of Interstate 75. He was charged with possessing marijuana and possessing cocaine after a traffic stop.

■ Michael G. Govoni, 37, 27697 Riverdale Lane, Bonita Springs, was arrested Tuesday at the intersection of Livingston and Immokalee roads. He was charged with possessing a controlled substance and driving with a suspended license after a traffic stop.

Naples police

Fraud arrest

Joanne Martunas, 55, 11 Forest Lakes Blvd., East Naples, was arrested Tuesday at Dillard’s, 1798 U.S. 41 N. Martunas, a Dillard’s employee, was charged with making $756.60 in fraudulent refunds.

Domestic violence arrest

William John Chorkey, 54, 701 Park Shore Drive, Naples, was arrested Monday at home. He was charged with grabbing the arm of his girlfriend, Jennifer Lynn Harris, smacking her, and threatening to kill her dogs.

Like it or not, OKAY is right on about the problems illegals from all nations are causing all of us here in OUR COUNTRY. Try going to Mexico, have a kid, and see it that country will support you like we do here. Border hospitals are going broke, doctors are leaving those towns, and the hard working US Citizen is paying for it through his/hers tax dollar. Crime is going out of control in SW Florida, and the Hispanics, Hatians, and Cubans are creating the problems. The police are frustrated, and our elected bunghole politicians don't care. They only make promises during the electoral process, then it's back to doing nothing about the problems. It's only going to get worse people, and it comes down to one thing, you and only you can defend and protect yourself. The police are not, and will never be on every corner to protect you. The politicians of many states have OK'd us for the right to carry a firearm. I guess they know what problems are around the corner too.

Where in this story did we read illegals, mexicans, people from a different country?

Dont we have pregnant white girls in America? How did this become an illegal alien conversation?

News Flash. Elvis is dead.

Naples Daily News Commentators:
Get rid of all illegals, they did it.

They probably knew she just got her government check. It's the beginning of the Month.

#22 Posted by okay
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It's bad enough that people come here illegally, then when they add insult to injury by criminal behavior, I'm not supposed to be outraged?
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I'll agree with you there.

If you speak out about it, you are immediately labeled a racist.

Instead of the hispanic community being upset with the criminal activity among the hispanics and the animosity it breeds they HIDE behind the racist card.

The three men are being detained in Broward County and face charges by Broward and Collier officials for felony fleeing and eluding. Meanwhile, detectives with the Lee County Sheriff's Office Anti-Crime Unit are continuing the investigation and charges are pending.

Their tentative identities are Seth Murray, 20; Tory Grant, 25; and Jude Pericles, 25, according to the Lee County Sheriff’s Office.

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OKAY: Latinos must do something about it not to be asociated with criminals?????? How about a masters degree and 17years of military service so far????? How about going from private to captain and alreay working on getting to major??? Can I say I am a Latino not asociated with crime????? DO I HAVE TO WALK WIH PAPERS IN MY POCKET??? I AM A CITIZEN BECAUSE USA INVADED MY ISLAND. I DIDN'T CROSS ANY BORDER NOR LEFT MY COUNTRY IN A STOLEN BOAT. AS A MATTER OF FACT I AM HERE BECAUSE THE COMPANY WENT TO PUERTO RICO LOOKING FOR ME AND PAY ME TO COME HERE!!!!!!!!!

Hey OKAY - I have a Z in my name and am not latino, hispanic, spanish, etc. - what's your last name you under educated idiot.

Ricky,

I'll bet there are a lot of guys named Seth, Tory and Jude in the Latino community.

While I applaud the work of CCSO and ICE yesterday picking up illegals with criminal records, I detest the fact that people take off on racist rants at the first mention of crime.

Thank you for your service to (Y)OUR country and for defending us all, even including the freedom of people to spew hate filled speech.

Can't you tell when the population as a whole is fed up with government inaction involving an ongoing invasion from a foreign country? Just because you refuse to believe that we are being invaded by a foreign government doesn't mean that the rest of us (at least 50%) have to sit idle while our country is destroyed from the inside by a fifth column. You can be happy in the knowledge that you were an "enlightened" human..but the rest of us prefer to save our country.

almost,

I am very committed to stopping the invasion. I have a son that puts his life on the line every day as a Border Patrol Supervisor on our Southern border to protect our country. I am probably more hawkish on the need to defend our border than most. We need to be secure in our country and to prevent the entry of unauthorized people. That has nothing to do with the prejudice and racism that jumps up here every time there is an act of violence.

Good for you Ricky, I commend you. Now what are YOU doing to keep illegals out of our country?

Are you so blinded by your DNA that you overlook the mostly latino illegals or are you taking a stand against them as an American who cares about your country no matter what your ancestry?

THAT'S the difference. You are either one of them or one of us.

If 20 million Russian, German, Irish or any other nation of illegals invaded us I would be just as angry and upset. Don't you think that they see what the Mexicans, Central & So. Americans are getting away with and they're ready for THEIR shot at the American gravy train? Latinos are opening up the floodgates for EVERY nationality of criminal to proceed through. Amnesty means amnesty for EVERYONE and people EVERYWHERE are ready to flock here by the millions, just like the latinos who are already here and more are coming every day.

Still, the fact remains that RIGHT NOW latinos make up the majority of illegals in our country and the reason is that LEGAL latinos encourage them, aid them and abet them. Otherwise, they wouldn't BE ABLE to live in the underground society that legal latinos make available to them.

How would you feel if an entire segment of white Americans started allowing the Russian mafia to use our IDs, live 4-5 families to a house (next door to you), having 6-8 anchor babies and living off of the taxes you pay into the welfare system, driving drunk, killing latino Americans? You wouldn't like it if the tables were turned on you, but you expect me to ignore it?

Complicity is just as bad as the crime itself. I chastise EVERYONE who thinks that illegals are a benign problem in our society.

How many white or black Americans are in the human smuggling business? Not many.

How many white or black Americans are members of international drug cartels? Not many.

How many white or black Americans run fake document rings? Not many.

How many white or black Americans operate drop/flop houses for illegals? Not many.

How many white or black Americans flock to Home Depots around the country with 50-100 other white or black Americans, loitering and creating havoc in our communities? Not many.

When latinos admit that it's THEIR problemo and not JUST OURS to clean up, the resentment Americans feel might subside....but the longer it's ignored and even encouraged only creates more and more animosity by people like me who are sick and tired of apologists for their 3rd world behavior.

cutthroatliberal, if you don't know what an abettor is and think that it is misspelled , you DO need a remedial English class......or did you simply forget that I called you on your mistaken attempt at ridicule?

You really should proofread before you post, it's only your ignorance at issue.

Ryu, that's the beauty of the argument.....I'm a "left-winger" from way back......so there's not much they can argue with me about, I KNOW their ploys and their methods of arguing a point.....it doesn't work on me.

okay,

With the exception the Home Depot question, you would be very surprised with the race and ethnicity of the people that run drugs, sell false documents, smuggle people etc.

The Other Than Mexicans (OTM's) involved in these rings are US citizens, Russians, Iranians, and other ethnicities. Almost all of the false documents are produced by profiteering US citizens. They use others (Mexicans, Salvadorans, and other Hispanics) to sell them, but they are the money and power behind the rings.

Ricky, is is up to white Americans to fight your battles for you? Illegals hide behind the skirts of you and your raza - do you encourage it or not?

Since latinos use the "race card" when white Americans protest illegals, are YOU going to step up to the plate and take a stand FOR or AGAINST the U.S?

Are white Americans the only ones with enough guts to stand up to illegals and their abettors?

Do we have to fight these battles for ourselves, or are there HONEST Americans of hispanic descent who will take a stand for what's right (other than the members of "You Don't Speak For Me")

Since you're Puerto Rican, where DOES your loyalty lie? With us or with them?

It's really simple and for most Americans there isn't even a QUESTION as to who we are loyal to. I'm not aware of how Puerto Ricans feel about loyalty to this country.......fill me in, please.

"Almost all of the false documents are produced by profiteering US citizens."

Right.....latino US citizens. Please, I'm not blind nor deaf, I am well informed by choice on this subject......sure there are plenty of criminals who are OTM (or other than latino) but the majority was and still IS latinos aiding and abetting other latinos in every aspect of the illegal alien issue.

My opinions on ALL illegals have already been posted in this forum - it's CLEAR how I feel about invaders no matter WHERE they come from.

Okay,

It seems you are very poorly informed. The money and power is Anglo not Latino. OTM's increased by 137% in the most recent report that has been made public with about 20% of them from "special interest countries." Read that as enemies of the US including Middle Eastern countries.

You would also be shocked at the percentage of the US Border Patrol Agents that are Hispanic and with my son, risk their lives every day to protect your freedom.

All of you may be at least aware of the case of Ramos and Campion two Hispanic BP agents serving 20 years in jail for shooting a drug smuggler in the "buttocks"

Some Hispanics are standing up for them more forcefully than Anglos are

"You Don’t Speak for Me! (YDSFM), a national coalition of American Hispanics who favor tighter immigration enforcement, has joined with thousands of other Americans in support of two Border Patrol officers who face as much a 20 years in prison for wounding a Mexican drug smuggler who had assaulted them and then tried to escape. Calling the convictions of Officers Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean, “a gross miscarriage of justice,” YDSFM is joining a national campaign to re-open their cases.

“These two officers have become pawns in a political campaign to make sure the laws against illegal immigration in this country are made as difficult as possible to enforce,” charged retired Col. Al Rodriguez, chairman of YDSFM. “If Officers Ramos and Compean had been serving in any police department in America, instead of the Border Patrol, they would have received medals and had their picture taken with the mayor. Instead, they face a possible 20-year prison sentence for upsetting the political interest groups that want to tie the hands of the people who protect our borders.”

YDSFM is part of a national bipartisan coalition that is seeking a federal investigation into the events that led to the convictions of Ramos and Compean. A web site, http://www.justiceforborderpatrol.com has been established to aid the two officers and their families."

Please believe I am against illegal immigration regardless of ethnicity and most are Hispanic, but please do not diminish the courage of those who serve and those that support them. The majority of our BP agents are Hispanic as is the Chief Border Patrol Agent.

Please...feel us in.

I can't believe 3 donkeys can break down at the same time. I also can't believe you jerks care this much about a bunch of lowlives.

Hey sh4, I heard Ryu say it'd be just fine for you to bring brass knuckles to a gun fight.

"It seems you are very poorly informed. The money and power is Anglo not Latino."

Have YOU informed YOURSELF on the connection between the Mexican drug cartels and the Mexican government? THAT is where the money/power comes from that FEEDS the illegal alien pipeline......as far as the Border Patrol goes, there are latino, black AND white agents who have been convicted of aiding & abetting illegals......I DOUBT that the money they were paid came from anglos (I'm assuming that you mean NON-hispanics). It's directly from the Mexican drug cartels who have branched out into human smuggling, and other illegal activities.

So don't act as if the Border Patrol are all angels. They're not. Unfortunately, the HONEST agents are tainted by those few who ARE corrupt thus our confidence in them tends to be usurped.

Regardless of HOW illegals get here - they couldn't survive here WITHOUT the help of their "legal" familia y amigos. By "legal" I don't necessarily mean citizens. The majority of illegals were ONCE "legal" - for whatever reason they didn't follow through on becoming citizens......but THAT'S a problem of THEIR own making - not mine OR America's.

okay,

No sense in spending time and effort on someone who is so badly misinformed, close-minded and prejudiced. Hate is hate. Goodbye.

OKAY:I don't expect you to understand. But this is my country. I am as american as any of you. I prefer to say US citizen, since America is way bigger than USA. You will never understand how does it feel to be looked at like you might be an ilegal in your own country. I am 100% in favor of securing the borders and deporting whoever needs to be deported. But when you start talking about hispanics like we are all criminals you are showing some obvious lack of education. Understand one thing: Hispanics families have been in this land even before was called USA. So not every hispanic is an inmigrant. Have you even serve in our military????

"You would also be shocked at the percentage of the US Border Patrol Agents that are Hispanic and with my son, risk their lives every day to protect your freedom."

Don't flatter yourself assuming what I would be "shocked" about. I'm fully aware of the mostly latino Border Patrol agents. What's your point?

You think that I believe that all latino Border Patrol agents are corrupt? Please. I'm smarter than that.

But let me tell you a little story......I know a young man who married a non-citizen Mexican......she embodies ALL the WORST qualities that stereotype them. You name it, she's the typical ingrate Mexican who thinks that the US OWES her something.

She has been given government educational GRANTS (no payback necessary) and SPENT them on herself, not education.......now that she's on her way to citizenship, she's taken out student LOANS that THEY (not she) will be responsible for.....and guess what she wants to be? A Border Patrol agent......she'll tell you flat out that she's doing it so that she can help illegals get past the rules......she wants to be an INFILTRATOR (or TRAITOR might be a better word for it).

She hates this country, and she tells you flat out that she's going to take Americans for anything she can get. She'll tell you outright that we STOLE this country and that Mexicans are coming here to take it back - by bankrupting middle class America.

The young man realized too late what a huge mistake he made by allowing himself to be conned by this user. She gives latinos a terrible reputation, yet I don't hear any outcry by them AGAINST the millions like her in our country......all I hear is how much we "need" them.

Most Americans are smarter than that, and it's an insult for someone to try to tell us differently.

Ricky, my kids are in the military.....so don't use that lame argument on me.

If I look at you and wonder if you aid and abet illegals, don't be upset at me. Be upset at the latinos who cause me to wonder - then DO something about it.

Pretending that illegal latinos AREN'T tainting your reputation is naive. When you ignore it, pretending that it will go away, you're as much a part of the illegal problem as the illegals are.

You still didn't say who your loyalty lies with - Americans or your raza.

Wow, naples you are pretty defensive about your Border Patrol......doesn't it bother you when corruption is exposed in the agency?

As far as Ramos y Compean go they have been railroaded......and Johnny Sutton should be hanged for treason.

I ADMIRE the brave members of "You Don't Speak For Me".......I applaud them and see them as Americans - not latinos.

Afraid of midget illiterates? Hardly.

Angry at their audacity, yes.

Upset when they rape & pillage, yes.

Irate at the way they turn our country into barrios, yes.

Afraid? Hahahaha, keep dreaming......you must live in Immokalee, lol.

Hispanic is not a Raza. You can be hispanic and black, or hispanic and blonde with blue eyes. American is not a Raza either. We come in all colors. You just continue to talk nonsense and show you ignorance. Everything is lame to you. Nothing make sense but the voices inside your head. So I wont waste anymore off my time. Go take your pills. You are nothing but a P.O.S.

Latinos CLAIM to be a "raza"......but I've never heard an American claim to be a certain race........you just can't admit that latinos see themselves as separatists can you?

No different than the KKK used to do.

Mexicans used then term "la raza" when talking about mexicans. But even white trash like you should know not all latinos are mexicans. I see you know a lot about KKK. Its ok you can say all your ideas here. Stupidity is not a sin. /just dont go scream outside. I don't want you to get your but kicked by some mexican. hehehehehehe

Hilarious that you are trying to distance yourself from the racist La Raza.....what's the matter? You ashamed of your racist amigos y familia? Don't be ashamed, we all know you're as racist as they are.

Incidentally, the only time that midget Mexicans "kick butt" is when there are 20-30 to one.......that's why they always use weapons.....LOLOLOL They don't stand a chance one on one, hand to hand.....YOU know it and I know it.

Ricardo, you don't KNOW what color my skin is......I've never said I'm white.......A S S uming only makes YOU seem illiterate.

Every individual no matter the race, if they believe the illegals should be allowed to stay, should foot the bill out of their own pocket and sponsor these individuals and not be allowed to use the system for housing, food or medical. They should also be held responsible for their criminal activities as well.

If that were the law...

NO TAKERS!

Kill em' all, let GOD sort em' out.

YourIllegalAlienNextDoor

Statistics say that will happen in 2050.
White will no longer be a majority. Hispanics, will be the majority. Followed by whites, then blacks.

Most of the people that are posting right now will not be here to see that day. Its too bad.
I have lived near the border, its great, the best of both worlds...love my country and love Mexico. Gringos near the border are great people too...they have assimilated into the culture.
Many gringos will have to assimilate into our new culture by 2050 like it or not. Assimilation is not bad at all...Learning about people different from your own race is not the end of the world.

Have Hispanics assimilated into the US Society? Yes..Not all are bad, there are those who break the rules...many are in jail paying for their crimes, NI MODO. The rest are living a life, some prosperous, others having a hard time, but they are here, commited to living in the US, raising their children, working hard to pay a 30-year mortgage...AND CONTRARY to popular thinking many don't care about food stamps...

Even Mexicans in Mexico have assimilated. They now have McDonalds, Sam's, Walmart, Holiday Inn, BENNIGANS, Sears, Fifth Avenue and many others. They are even learning English.

I was teaching English in Mexico for a year and I can tell you mexicans have assimilated into our culture. They love watching Hollywood movies, eat pop corn with hot salsa, but they love the american ideal. Girls are in love with Brad Pitt and Leonardo diCaprio and guys are in love with Angelina and Britney.

I visited Monterrey and my mexican friends would tell me, "this is America"...Monterrey is a very prosperous city of 3.8 million people near the Border, . It's their America, they don't need to live here to appreciate beauty.

To those of you who believe the radical propaganda by illegal haters, let me tell you...they are way off.

#102 Posted by CutthroatLiberal on September 5, 2008 at 6:52 a.m.

"Hey pisshead,..." "Go efff yourself." "You're a pig."
"You are what is wrong with America.No solutions. Just hate."
"I am sure your momma would be proud."

You're funny. Something wrong with America? When are you leaving?

I spent some time in Canada and while I was there I began to learn French Canadian and could converse with the people in their own language.
I mingled with all people not just English speaking groups.
I did not speak English around people who could not (which was very few).
I did not jump on their Social System just because I could.
I actually made a CONTRIBUTION to the country while I was there.
I displayed NO arrogance that I was an American.
I committed no crimes.

You know what?

The people were very accepting and appreciated what I had done. I made friends very quickly, not just the English speaking ones. Many of which told me that it was considered very respectful the way I had done things and that is the way it should be.

The illegals will not to be accepted in ANY WAY as long as they do exactly opposite of the top list.

BTW: I was there less than a year and still was able to learn enough French to go anywhere and converse with anyone. They also complained about the "hispanic invasion" and this was several years ago.

Thanks for posting your double standards CTL.

They also complained about the "hispanic invasion"

INVASION OF THE ALIENS...

THEY ARE COMING! That's funny. But it's true.

By 2050, white america will no longer be the majority and that scares the s*(*t out of some people. Canada too will lose its white identity.

Too many beans in the melting pot...

Mexico is also being "invated" by americans...

There are close to one million US Citizens living throughout Mexico's 32 states.

Most are great citizens. Some have adquired mexican citizenship and get priviledges like any other mexican.

There are those who went there to run from US authorities...rapists, child molestors, killers, just your everyday american criminals.

Mexican people have to put up with these trash (no, i can't call them trash...is there anything worse?)

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I suggest you remove my last two comments...they are too strong for some people and it does not reflect my views on America or its people.

As a Hispanic American, I shall never teach hatred for as long as I shall live.

"Hey pisshead,..." "Go efff yourself." "You're a pig."
"You are what is wrong with America.No solutions. Just hate."
"I am sure your momma would be proud."

It's only considered "hate" when someone else uses such glowing terms of endearment?
A pig by any other name is still a pig.

Face it. Your buttons got pushed and you responded with the above repertoire. And then have the nerve to suggest "Just hate" is the problem with America?
"Okay" doesn't need my help blogging.
"okay" isn't my boyfriend. Why would you ask? Don't even know who "okay" is. You want to be my boyfriend? <que up the banjo music>

sorry....that banjo crack was a bit over the top

omg such ignorance-language and culture is not race we are all descended from lucy an african even aisians and europeans compounded in the south by good old massa in the slave quaters all ethnic groups have geniuses and fools just visit the bars on the weekend

#113 Posted by NYEM
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Most are great citizens. Some have adquired mexican citizenship and get priviledges like any other mexican.
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Ahhh, but Mexican laws prevent the same rights as Mexican.

If you immigrate to Mexico, you must speak the native language.
You have to be a professional or an investor.
You are not allowed to be an unskilled worker.
There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools, no special ballots for elections, no government business will be conducted in your native language.

Foreigners will not have the right to vote nor will they ever be allowed to hold political office.
If you're in Mexico, you cannot be a burden to taxpayers.
You are not entitled, EVER, to welfare, to food stamps, or other government programs.
You can come if you invest here, but it must be an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.
If you don't have that amount of money you have to stay home.
If you do come and you want to buy land you will not be allowed to buy waterfront property in the Mexico.
That is reserved for citizens naturally born in Mexico.
As a foreigner, you must relinquish individual rights to property.
You don''t have the right to protest when you come here. You're allowed no demonstrations, you cannot wave a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing the president or his policies or you get deported.
If you come here illegally, you go straight to jail and we're going to hunt you down until we find you.

#123 Posted by welcome02
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we are all descended from lucy
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According to Richard Leakey, who along with Johanson is probably the best-known fossil-anthropologist in the world, Lucy’s skull is so incomplete that most of it is ‘imagination made of plaster of paris’.1 Leakey even said in 1983 that no firm conclusion could be drawn about what species Lucy belonged to.

In reinforcement of the fact that Lucy is not a creature ‘in between’ ape and man, Dr Charles Oxnard, Professor of Anatomy and Human Biology at the University of Western Australia, said in 1987 of the australopithecines (the group to which Lucy is said to have belonged):

‘The various australopithecines are, indeed, more different from both African apes and humans in most features than these latter are from each other. Part of the basis of this acceptance has been the fact that even opposing investigators have found these large differences as they too, used techniques and research designs that were less biased by prior notions as to what the fossils might have been’.2

Oxnard’s firm conclusion? ‘The australopithecines are unique.’3

Neither Lucy nor any other australopithecine is therefore intermediate between humans and African apes. Nor are they similar enough to humans to be any sort of ancestor of ours.

Lucy and the australopithecines show nothing about human evolution, and should not be promoted as having any sort of ‘missing link’ status.
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There are those ( americans in Mexico) who went there to run from US authorities...rapists, child molestors, killers, just your every day american criminals.

Any comments?